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ChrisWoods Member Since: 29 Dec 2016 Location: Spreyton Posts: 164 |
Cedar clad will costa fortune compare to block and render. You going to insulate it? If you dont you could find condensation and damp an issue. 2009 2.4TDCi XS Utility Wagon.
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10th May 2017 10:54am |
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LandRoverAnorak Member Since: 17 Jul 2011 Location: Surrey Posts: 11324 |
The obvious one is the need for maintenance to the exterior. A brick built structure is, by and large, maintenance free but a timber one will need painting or treating periodically. How often will depend on the quality of what you buy initially and the exposure to a certain extent. With some treatments, they can essentially last forever but may need cosmetic tidying from time to time. At the other end of the scale though, you may be looking at completely repainting every three years.
A timber building is also marginally less secure. It's easier to cut through a timber wall than break through a brick one. Only you can decide if that's a significant risk, though. In terms of practicality in use, I'd say that there's little in it if built to a decent standard. Darren 110 USW BUILD THREAD - EXPEDITION TRAILER - 200tdi 90 BUILD THREAD - SANKEY TRAILER - IG@landroveranorak "You came in that thing? You're braver than I thought!" - Princess Leia |
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10th May 2017 10:54am |
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Stacey007 Member Since: 25 Sep 2015 Location: Cheshire Posts: 3757 |
Hello
I've also been looking at buildings / workshops / log stores for an area around 6m long and 5m wide. My dad mentioned I could get a steel framed building and then clad it in what ever wood finish you like? could be another option? |
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10th May 2017 11:05am |
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blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17443 |
I don't think that bricklaying is particularly difficult. Start on the wall you can't see from the house and by the time you get to the bits you can see you'll be a champion.
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10th May 2017 11:54am |
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jst Member Since: 14 Jan 2008 Location: Taunton Posts: 8051 |
Personally I would build a block one and render it.
I have had timber 8 x 6m and currently a brick one.latter is much better and secure. Would y o u have a block and brick house or log house in this country and for what reasons? Cheers James 110 2012 XS Utility 130 2011 M57 bespoke Camper 90 2010 Hardtop 90 M57 1988 Hardtop |
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10th May 2017 3:45pm |
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gilarion Member Since: 05 Dec 2013 Location: Wales Posts: 5111 |
Why not just buy a readymade concrete garage with a good up and over door, they bolt together very easy so save some money and erect it yourself not hard if you have a mate to help .
I ordered an 8 x 18 feet extra height garage five years ago from Nucrete it cost me £1500.00 delivered, though the prices may have risen over the last few years. Laid down a good concrete base and taking it easy with a couple of friends took two days to erect. I also went for an apex roof which gave me a bit of extra strorage. For those who like Welsh Mountains and narrow boats have a look at my videos and photos at.. http://www.youtube.com/user/conwy1 |
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10th May 2017 5:33pm |
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Intercept Member Since: 27 Feb 2017 Location: Suffolk Posts: 587 |
Mine was built from 6" concrete blocks, then boarded with celotex insulation. The celotex is attached using vertical battens at 600mm spacing which are then used to mount the timber weatherboard. The beauty of this is that you get the security of concrete plus insulation, and it doesn't matter how rough your bricklaying is because it will be hidden
The other advantage of this construction is that it allowed the addition of a 2nd storey (timber frame) 10 years later. |
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10th May 2017 9:09pm |
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Intercept Member Since: 27 Feb 2017 Location: Suffolk Posts: 587 |
How it was originally built: Click image to enlarge then extended upwards 10 years later to create "her" space: Click image to enlarge Click image to enlarge |
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11th May 2017 8:54am |
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Stacey007 Member Since: 25 Sep 2015 Location: Cheshire Posts: 3757 |
^ Inside pics please.
Looks Ace, I have a similar plot area. around 5m wide and 6m or more back. That's a great man cave Am I rough in thinking no planing is needed as long as less than 4m high? |
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11th May 2017 9:31am |
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Intercept Member Since: 27 Feb 2017 Location: Suffolk Posts: 587 |
The planning requirement depends on your location and plot situation. If your "Permitted Development" rights haven't been removed (many new-build areas don't have PD) then a garage/workshop outbuilding would be as per Class E at the link below:
http://webarchive.nationalarchives.gov.uk/...idance.pdf In my case the original building was permitted development but then required planning permission for the 2nd floor. The original shallow roof pitch is due to the combination of the 4m ridge height (due to PD restrictions) and the 2.5m door clearance needed for my 101 (see avatar). The new roof matches the local vernacular. Building Regulation approval was more problematic and expensive than planning permission. |
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11th May 2017 9:50am |
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Retroanaconda Member Since: 04 Jan 2012 Location: Scotland Posts: 2656 |
A brick/block garage will be more secure and stronger certainly, but more expensive and time consuming to build. I went with timber because that's what I know, plus the slab was there already so I could not spec it for brick/block etc.
Click image to enlarge Click image to enlarge Being timber I was able to build it almost entirely by myself, only bit I got help with was hanging the windows. Took a bit of working out how to get the roof trusses up but I managed in the end. Still not big enough mind... |
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11th May 2017 12:06pm |
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discomog Member Since: 09 May 2015 Location: Notts/Lincs Border Posts: 2529 |
I built some high quality timber stables, clad in cedar some 12 years ago. Everyone remarks how good they look but the downside is that I retreat them every two years to keep them looking good. The planners forced me down the timber route as they would not allow brick built units in the green belt. If I'd had the choice I would have gone for block and render, easier and less maintenance. Defender 90XS SW
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11th May 2017 12:33pm |
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BigRuss Member Since: 15 May 2010 Location: Norfolk Posts: 2785 |
But what is more secure?????
A timber building Or a brick building with a wooden door? Looking at what type of timber building you put up it's not your everyday garden shed! So is it really less secure? Other think the think of is if you need planning permission or if you use timber is it classed as a temporary building? Russell 2011MY 110 XS USW Black |
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11th May 2017 12:50pm |
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ericvv Member Since: 02 Jun 2011 Location: Near the Jet d'Eau Posts: 5816 |
This one here gives me some ideas....
Eric Click image to enlarge You never actually own a Defender. You merely look after it for the next generation. http://youtu.be/yVRlSsJwD0o https://youtu.be/vmPr3oTHndg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GtzTT9Pdl0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABqKPz28e6A https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLZ49Jce_n0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvAsz_ilQYU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8tMHiX9lSw https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dxwjPuHIV7I https://vimeo.com/201482507 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSixqL0iyHw |
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11th May 2017 1:12pm |
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