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Cobra_Phil

Member Since: 24 Apr 2017
Location: Papua New Guinea
Posts: 7

Engine help from the Highlands of Papua New Guinea

I own a 2012 Defender 110 w/2.2L TDCI engine. It is located in the Highlands of Papua New Guinea where I have no access to parts, specialty tools, or mechanical help. Currently I am in the States until next week when I fly back to PNG. I am asking for help to diagnose an engine problem and help determine what parts and tools I need to take back with me. All I will have available is my basic set of tools, and what I take with me now. If I need to order anything and ship it to PNG, it will take anywhere from 3 weeks to 3 months depending on several factors before it arrives. I do have some mechanical skills and have rebuilt engines in the past, but never a diesel or engine with a turbo. Hopefully I can get some help from this forum so I can get the LR running again.
Scenario: I was driving up a fairly steep grade and the engine bogged down a lot. I noticed the temp gauge shot up quickly, and then quit working all together. From that point one, I could tell the engine was not running the same and the power was low. Once I got back home, oil level was over 2 quarts low and I found oil in the coolant. I was able to have someone look at it and they changed the oil cooler which seems to have fixed the oil in the coolant problem. But for reasons which I will no go into now, all repairs from this point forward are going to have to be done by me. No test equipment what-so-ever.

The remaining issues are:
No boost at any acceleration level
Over heats after several minutes of running
Cooling system is getting pressurized

It starts and runs fine until it starts to overheat. My first guess is blown head gasket. But I have read that this is a rare occurrence with this engine. I have also read that the EGR bypass (or something along those lines) could be the issue. What I am asking from the forum is help in determining what steps to take in troubleshooting this problem, and what parts and tools I should take with me to fix it. Whatever I don't take with me now will cost me weeks and possibly months of waiting once I get back to PNG. I already have a straight edge on order to check for warped head. I was going to order a head gasket, but do not know how many holes it should be. Thanks in advance for your input.

25th Apr 2017 10:53pm

agentmulder

Member Since: 16 Apr 2016
Location: Outer Space
Posts: 1324

Can you give us more info on the EGR bypass? Was it done via a remap and/or physically? Solved the bowel problem, working on the consonants...

26th Apr 2017 12:11am

Cobra_Phil

Member Since: 24 Apr 2017
Location: Papua New Guinea
Posts: 7

My LR does not currently have the bypass, it is stock. I was just stating that I thought I've read that the EGR bypass could resolve the overheating issue. Sorry, didn't word it very well.

26th Apr 2017 1:03am

Beery

Member Since: 16 Nov 2014
Location: NSW
Posts: 36

2015 Defender 130 Puma 2.2 HCPU Corris Grey

The cooling system will now be coated with oil on all surfaces unless it has been properly cleaned.
This could cause the overheating you are experiencing.

Does the engine provide normal power/operation before it overheats?

26th Apr 2017 3:55am

Cobra_Phil

Member Since: 24 Apr 2017
Location: Papua New Guinea
Posts: 7

I was told it was flushed several times and from my checks, the coolant looked clean.
It is definitely under-powered. That along with the lack of boost and pressurized coolant system points to additional problems.

26th Apr 2017 4:10am

R1200GS

Member Since: 12 Jul 2015
Location: Hampshire
Posts: 265

2016 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Keswick Green

Oil in coolant normally points to cylinder head gasket failure...?

26th Apr 2017 9:19am

familymad

Member Since: 13 Dec 2011
Location: Bucks
Posts: 3481

2016 Defender 130 Puma 2.2 HCPU Santorini Black

Sounds like a core issue that's caused the overheat but now cyl head warped or gasket gone. Pressurising coolant is defo bigger issue now. Sounds remote with no tools. Can anyone else help you? 1951 80" S1 2.0
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1995 90 300TDI

26th Apr 2017 1:32pm

jst

Member Since: 14 Jan 2008
Location: Taunton
Posts: 8165

2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Stornoway Grey

were their any symptoms prior to failure? or anything not right?

remapped?

what load was it under at failure? how long running how heavily loaded, how many miles? frequent oil changes?

water pump working?

when it gets hot it will cut power and feel booged down. does it run with power until it get too hot? or no power from immediate cold start?

turbo is free to spin? Cheers

James
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26th Apr 2017 2:26pm

o4dn

Member Since: 08 Jan 2010
Location: South West
Posts: 554

2009 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 SW Alaska White

That's a 2.2 from 2012, could it be an oil pump failure if it didn't have the recall done? â€œA Land Rover immobilized is a moral defeat for the driver and bad publicity for the vehicle, [â€¦] it's up to you to do justice to your Land Rover!â€ - Land Rover Driving Technique.
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26th Apr 2017 2:51pm

Cobra_Phil

Member Since: 24 Apr 2017
Location: Papua New Guinea
Posts: 7

I am very remote. I do have help, but no one with more mechanical skills than me.

No symptoms prior to overheat. 2nd gear, climbing off-road incline, very heavy bog for several seconds - pedal to the floor, less than 13k miles on odometer, not sure about frequency of oil changes, I've had the vehicle less than 6 months. No problem with water pump. From startup it is low on power. Turbo spins freely, but definitely no boost. It has stock ECU.

Because of where it is located, I'm sure it did not have the oil pump recall performed on it.

Thanks.

26th Apr 2017 3:49pm

jst

Member Since: 14 Jan 2008
Location: Taunton
Posts: 8165

ok, cheers, is it using coolant or oil at all now or hard to tell? Cheers

James
110 2010 XS Utility
130 2011 M57 bespoke Camper
90 2010 Hardtop
90 M57 1988 Hardtop

26th Apr 2017 6:40pm

Cobra_Phil

Member Since: 24 Apr 2017
Location: Papua New Guinea
Posts: 7

I am not driving it at all now, so hard to tell.

26th Apr 2017 6:55pm

xcentric

Member Since: 17 Jan 2016
Location: Midlands
Posts: 247

others are probably much more expert than me, but if the coolant is getting pressurised then it would suggest that you have some influx of stuff into there, hence head gasket failure and oil leak plus engine pressure causing issues.

Lack of power could be related to leak in turbo/connecting pipes, but that is not likely to result in the other symptoms you mention, unless the engine is overheating cos it's working too hard without turbo assistance.

I think you need to take as many spares in terms of hoses, gaskets, water pumps, oil filters etc as your baggage will let you have, ideally on a sale or return basis, and focus on trying to identify the problem this trip and fix it next. A good phone/satphone with mobile internet might be your best bet to connect you with experts here when you're there!

I'd also try to hook up with people in Australia before you go who can ship parts to you as you might need them - faster than from the USA.....

26th Apr 2017 8:54pm

Cobra_Phil

Member Since: 24 Apr 2017
Location: Papua New Guinea
Posts: 7

Thanks for the input.
I am thinking of purchasing this kit off Ebay to get it started shipping towards PNG.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Landrover-Defend...P#shpCntId

It should provide most of the bits and pieces I might need in case it is a head gasket, oil pump, cracked piston, broken piston ring, etc. I know it might not be the right head gasket but my main goal it to get it running. I have a straight edge on the way so I can check for a warped head. Other tools I have thought of include ODBII Scanner/Reset tool, engine compression gauge, and hydrocarbon test kit (if I can get it on the plane).

For anything major like warped head, split inter-cooler/hoses, turbo issue, etc., I will just have to order the parts and wait.
I won't be coming back to the States for 1-2 years. I do have limited internet access (dial-up speeds) which will allow me to stay in contact with this forum and others that can help.

Still looking for ideas that will help troubleshot/resolve this problem. Thanks.

27th Apr 2017 12:51am

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