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| jst Member Since: 14 Jan 2008 Location: Taunton Posts: 8035   
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remove it, cut the webs out and then get it machined. Cheers
James 110 2012 XS Utility 130 2011 M57 bespoke Camper 90 2010 Hardtop 90 M57 1988 Hardtop |
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28th Feb 2017 2:59pm |
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| bankz5152 Member Since: 02 Feb 2017 Location: South London/North Kent Posts: 2169 
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Manifold warping is very common and generally caused by constant high EGTs, the Allisport is great but like you said very expensive. I wouldn't bother having one made up, chap on Landyzone did and it did not last.
There is a cheaper option http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/LAND-ROVER-TD5-M...XQ1ZhTev3~ Thats what I have currently fitted to my 110, hybrid turbo, map, IC the whole lot. I've done maybe 200miles since I fitted it, no leaks or issues thus far but I havnt really pushed it. From what I have read, It could be fine and last or it could warp again sharpish. Though 165 is a lot less than 600! Worth a punt imo. If this one warps ill buy an Allisport but until then it's suitable. I would also suggest sourcing some Wurth mainfold studs, much stronger than the original as well as longer to accept spacers (to allow for expansion without warping), but 15 not 80 like the Allisport/Alive ones... If you stick with standard studs then replace the nuts with copper flashed ones, means you can remove the manifold in the future without snapping the studs! Dewebbed and machined flat -  Click image to enlarge Admin note: this post has had its images recovered from a money grabbing photo hosting site and reinstated  |
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28th Feb 2017 3:03pm |
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| Tank Member Since: 25 Jul 2014 Location: Fife Posts: 431  
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Thanks bankz5152
Do I need to fit spaces to the Wurth mainfold studs and where would I get those? Ta Tank |
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28th Feb 2017 4:06pm |
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| bankz5152 Member Since: 02 Feb 2017 Location: South London/North Kent Posts: 2169
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You dont need to fit the spacers, though they help to combat the warping. Currently looking at where to get them, as far as I have found out they are just billet ali or steel so shouldnt be too expensive.
Considering how easy it is to break the studs in the head then have the fear of drilling them out, if they are intact leave them and refit with copper nuts. |
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28th Feb 2017 4:10pm |
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| jst Member Since: 14 Jan 2008 Location: Taunton Posts: 8035
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is that just not a std one cut out with EGR blank? Cheers
James 110 2012 XS Utility 130 2011 M57 bespoke Camper 90 2010 Hardtop 90 M57 1988 Hardtop |
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28th Feb 2017 4:15pm |
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| bankz5152 Member Since: 02 Feb 2017 Location: South London/North Kent Posts: 2169
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Yes, just properly done. Standard manifold, dewebbed and machined flat as stated in my previous post.
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28th Feb 2017 4:46pm |
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| Tank Member Since: 25 Jul 2014 Location: Fife Posts: 431
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Been fun so far.
Bolts on manifold (right hand side) weren't very tight at all? Loosen due to warping? Good news though, none of the studs have snapped? Think the gasket might have gone hence the noise? Two studs in turbo snapped though, rusted and old age. One to go and think it will snap too 
Great job this is, loving it. Tank |
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28th Feb 2017 6:54pm |
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| jst Member Since: 14 Jan 2008 Location: Taunton Posts: 8035
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Sorry i didnt see your ref to it being a std one or the above mentioned before. and still dont hence the quesiton. Cheers
James 110 2012 XS Utility 130 2011 M57 bespoke Camper 90 2010 Hardtop 90 M57 1988 Hardtop |
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28th Feb 2017 8:56pm |
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| Tank Member Since: 25 Jul 2014 Location: Fife Posts: 431
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Interesting . . . . took off two gaskets on the exhaust manifold, why were there two?
Tank |
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28th Feb 2017 9:08pm |
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| derbywill Member Since: 25 Mar 2010 Location: Derbyshire Posts: 559  
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The metal gasket comprises of 2 pieces crimped together they can come apart upon disassembly.
Cheers Will 2005 90 XS 1954 86'' Series 1 tilt 1968 88” 2A 200tdi 2002 110 Hardtop |
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28th Feb 2017 10:30pm |
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| Tank Member Since: 25 Jul 2014 Location: Fife Posts: 431
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Cheers derbywill, sorry for the daft question.
Tank |
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1st Mar 2017 9:35am |
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| derbywill Member Since: 25 Mar 2010 Location: Derbyshire Posts: 559
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Your welcome but No question is a daft one!
Cheers Will 2005 90 XS 1954 86'' Series 1 tilt 1968 88” 2A 200tdi 2002 110 Hardtop |
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1st Mar 2017 12:53pm |
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| jst Member Since: 14 Jan 2008 Location: Taunton Posts: 8035
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ok, thank for point it out, just missed it above the picture. so a std one then. Cheers
James 110 2012 XS Utility 130 2011 M57 bespoke Camper 90 2010 Hardtop 90 M57 1988 Hardtop |
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1st Mar 2017 1:00pm |
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