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orkneydave



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LandRoverAnorak wrote:
AMBxx wrote:
I wouldn't switch to iPhone as my work all revolves around Windows software. If I had to go Android, I'd be looking at the Blackberry phones. Not sure they're quite there yet, but for security and updates they look great.

I've got a BlackBerry PRIV and it is great. Although, ironically, for some things it's not as slick as my previous non-Android BlackBerrys have been.


Same here! It's a great phone and I found the move from BB10 to Android fairly easy. I miss the simplicity of BB10 but find Android works well for all my needs. It intigrates well with all my email accounts, Tachomaster (for work), Youview etc.

I have never gone down the apple route so can't comment on that but if you are happy with and used to what you have there is no reason to change.

Oh, and I also got my daughter a Dtek50 to replace her windows phone and she loves it! Very Happy
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rustandoil



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Android all the way for me, I've tried to use the other half's iPhone and just cant get on with it.

Currently using Sony Thumbs Up
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Apple products are great (read simple) for computer numpties like me, but if you know your mouse from your dongle android seem way cheaper. Ray
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kmac



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Many people say that Apple stuff is simple/more intuitive but I don't find them to be so. Maybe I'm just used to Windows.
It is also harder to get "under the hood".

Also there is no MS Project or MS Visio for MacOS Crying or Very sad
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davew



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Most people like what they're used to and are adverse to change. If you have an iPhone now then you'll most likely stick with it because it's familiar. The same goes for Android. I know some people who have changed from one to the other and it's usually a struggle for the first month or so because everything is in the wrong place ! I prefer iOS although I develop apps for both platforms so work with both all the time.

Windows is the odd one out in that it's only any good if you can use the apps you want on it and, whilst there's pretty much identical offerings for iOS and Android, Windows is lacking in up to date apps - Microsoft had to pay us to write our app for Windows and we've not really changed it since because none of our development team want to work on it and the user base is tiny compared to the "big two" http://www.yorkshireoffroadclub.net/
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kmac wrote:
Many people say that Apple stuff is simple/more intuitive but I don't find them to be so. Maybe I'm just used to Windows.
It is also harder to get "under the hood".

Also there is no MS Project or MS Visio for MacOS Crying or Very sad


Apple stuff has a tendency to "just work" and most of the problems people have is when they try to overthink it after years of Windows experience. I include in this some of my very experienced IT friends who really know how to tie themselves up in knots with Macs by overthinking it. Generally my intervention ends with them saying something like "is that it ? I thought I would need to do X, X and X" You kind of just have to accept it will work and not overthink it.

Regarding it being "harder to get under the hood", not only does Apple supply free professional developer software with one of the best IDEs I've ever used (not some cut down community edition), free scripting software that can interact with running applications, it runs on a Linux base so you can pretty much do anything you want in the terminal and run pretty much any open source or compiled linux software. Not to mention being able to set up complex cron jobs and everything else a unix/linux box can do.

For the Windows apps you really can't do without you can run a native Windows environment on a Mac by installing VirtualBox (free virtualisation software). This also has the advantage of isolating the environment so, for example you can take a snapshot before running a Windows update and roll it back (or run both at the same time) if it all goes belly up. I use this technique primarily to develop Windows software on my Mac, mainly for the occasional .NET project.

Licensing for the operating system is FAR better than Windows too. My main desktop Mac is a 2011 model which runs really well and fast even though I regularly run multiple virtual machines on it. It was shipped with OS X 10.7, since which time it's had 5 major system updates, all free of charge, and is currently running OS X 10.12. There is no "pro" or "home" version forcing you to spend extra money to unlock features, every version of OS X is capable, out of the box, of doing anything. If you want to, you can download an OS installer from the App store that contains software to burn a standalone installer DVD or USB stick which will allow you to start any other Mac and update it's OS or install it from scratch. At no point do you have to enter a registration number or connect to the internet to do this.

Not that this has much to do with phones ! Smile I do use a Mac to develop apps for the major phone platforms though... http://www.yorkshireoffroadclub.net/
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lambert.the.farmer



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^^^^^ while the above sounds intelligent and is doubtless accurate, I have absolutely no idea what it means. Thank you though for taking the time to respond. Rhubarb and custard let fly with their secret weapon.
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kmac



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custom90



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Probably Apple for me, generally more secure too.

Each and everyone to their own, but I use iPad now all the time and nothing's else. No Guts, No Glory.
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