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Scott_Landy



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United Kingdom 1993 Defender 110 200 Tdi CSW Firenze Red
Doors - beyond repair?
Just wondered if any had experience of repairing defender doors and if they thought these were beyond economic repair.

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Post #603177 19th Feb 2017 10:07pm
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LandRoverAnorak



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It depends on whether you plan to do it yourself or pay somebody else. The parts required to carry out the repair are quite cheap but the time required to do it is considerable. Darren

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Post #603199 19th Feb 2017 10:47pm
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zsd-puma



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As above, repair panels are usually cheap, but the time and skill required to fix them properly is quite considerable.
If you have the time and skill to do them yourself, then it boils down to how much value you place on your time.

They're not beyond repair, but may well be beyond "economical" repair.
Post #603211 19th Feb 2017 11:42pm
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Scott_Landy



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Thanks for that. I'm no skilled body worker so guess I will look out for new ones and put these on flea bay and see what someone is willing to pay.
Post #603249 20th Feb 2017 7:54am
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LandRoverAnorak



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If you're going to go for brand new then take a look at SP4x4. They offer a wide range of OEM and upgraded replacement bare doors. You'd need to factor in the cost of all of the fittings too, though.

For mine, I've decided to go for take-off late TD5/Puma doors, which is a marginally cheaper approach. Just picked up a front passenger door and am on the look out for a matching drivers door. Darren

110 USW BUILD THREAD - EXPEDITION TRAILER - 200tdi 90 BUILD THREAD - SANKEY TRAILER - IG@landroveranorak

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Post #603256 20th Feb 2017 8:38am
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Scott_Landy



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United Kingdom 1993 Defender 110 200 Tdi CSW Firenze Red
Thanks for that Darren. Had a look at those and the galv ones are temping. Not cheap but given the chassis bad bulk head are done, may as well complete the set!
Post #603319 20th Feb 2017 2:34pm
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Intercept



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United Kingdom 2002 Defender 110 Td5 Black LE Java Black
I've just fitted a set of 4 galvanised doors from SP4x4. Not cheap but I was impressed with the quality and fit. After much deliberation I went for the steel skin version. The skin is zintec rather than dip galvanised. apparently to avoid warping etc. Before going to the spray shop they needed all the threads recutting and a few holes re-drilled to remove excess zinc, but apart from that it has been a straightforward (but time-consuming) job.


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Now I wish I'd bought new hinges at the same time...
Post #606897 5th Mar 2017 12:10pm
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Scott_Landy



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Thanks for that. Be interesting to see how you go on with the fitting as this is steadily climbing up my list of priorities!
Post #607228 6th Mar 2017 1:37pm
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Intercept



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United Kingdom 2002 Defender 110 Td5 Black LE Java Black
They're all fitted now. I just need to replace one central locking actuator, make some new plastic liners and then refit the door cards. Having driven the 110 in heavy rain today without door cards & liners I'm astonished as to how much water bypasses brand new window rubbers and ends up inside the door. No wonder the steel frames rot out Crying or Very sad

My old front doors are probably good enough for someone to repair, but like yours the 2nd row doors are much worse. I'd offer the 2nd Row doors free-of-charge for someone to collect but I'm too new to the forum to be allowed to do this.

John
Post #607259 6th Mar 2017 4:46pm
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Intercept



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I had the debatable joy of refitting the door cards yesterday so now all 4 doors are finished Very Happy

The original plastic liners were shredded (and very expensive to buy from LR) so I used http://www.screwfix.com/p/vapour-barrier-g...-20m/12869 instead. £15 for enough to do an entire fleet.


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During the project I did drive through some heavy rain without door cards or liners and was astonished as to how much water bypasses even brand new window rubbers. No wonder the steel frame rots out Rolling Eyes So - if you haven't got a Puma or galvanised doors get some protection applied (but don't block the drain holes!)
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CDN38



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Be sure to apply DumDum or strip caulk in the corners of the door skin where it meets the rubber waist seal and spacer blocks, water will pour in through there. It is something that was pretty thinly applied at the factory, if at all.


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 it's a Landrover thing...

my renovation thread:
http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic40792.html
Post #608689 11th Mar 2017 5:56pm
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Intercept



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Thanks for the tip about DumDum. There was none on the old doors, but I've now added some to the new ones Thumbs Up
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kzycnn



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Hi John

I see you used the TD5 style door. Did you consider the later puma-esq one piece framed doors? I have mine to do in the near future and wondered if the latter were a straight forward swap using all my existing TD5 internals?

Tony
Post #613574 31st Mar 2017 12:42pm
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Intercept



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The Puma door needs a few modifications to be able to take the Td5 ancilliaries. I decided that the galvanised steel framed Td5 doors with the zinc coated steel skin would be just as good as a Puma door and would be simpler to fit. They are also slightly cheaper.

John
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zsd-puma



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Intercept wrote:
Thanks for the tip about DumDum. There was none on the old doors, but I've now added some to the new ones Thumbs Up


DumDum is no longer made, however Unibond roof and guttering sealant is excelent for the job, it's butyl not silicone based.
Post #613617 31st Mar 2017 5:18pm
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