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too! Especially stressful accepting the extra challenge of trying to not touch them with fingers 
| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17603   
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I've primed mine on more than one occasion simply by blowing into the tank breather (which is extended into the rear buck by the r/n/s light cluster to keep the crud out).
For fuel filter changes just pre-filling the filler does the job. |
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10th Feb 2017 9:19am |
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| agentmulder Member Since: 16 Apr 2016 Location: Outer Space Posts: 1324 
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Heh, yip reminds me of two days ago when I realised that I had no way of knowing what was going on at the engine end of my transfer box and front diff breathers while blowing compressed air through them.
Solution = put them in mouth and blow. EP is not tasty. 
Luckily, rear I could see! Yet to taste gearbox. Solved the bowel problem, working on the consonants... |
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10th Feb 2017 9:24am |
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| B4Lamb Member Since: 21 Mar 2015 Location: Abergavenny, Wales Posts: 233  
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Yes you are right Alan, doing it that way worked for me too so I needn't have bought the pump bulb but it was cheap as chips on ebay so thought I may as well complete the tool with a male termination that fits the fuel purging female fitting. How often do you drain the water form your filter and how much do you get out each time? john "You are never to old to learn something new" |
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10th Feb 2017 9:35am |
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| AlanH Member Since: 15 Mar 2010 Location: WA Posts: 242 
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Hi John. I've never actually drained the filter but have looked down inside when changing and have never seen dirt or water down there yet.
Must be lucky.... and if that's the case why can't I win lotto and be able to afford a decent vehicle? 
AlanH. |
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13th Feb 2017 7:12am |
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| B4Lamb Member Since: 21 Mar 2015 Location: Abergavenny, Wales Posts: 233
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Hi Alan, the water is supposed to be separated in the filter and drained out through the bottom plug. The manual says drain regularly but what is regular?
I emptied mine into a clear container and found a black sticky blob of muck about the size of a marble in the fuel. There was some water, not much, in the water trap section of the filter as well but I'd drained that a few months ago so didn't expect there to be much. I took some pictures, I'll try and upload them. "You are never to old to learn something new" |
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13th Feb 2017 9:41am |
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| zsd-puma Member Since: 09 Aug 2016 Location: Kent Posts: 2720 
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I'm thinking of just buying the fuel line from Land Rover and using the connectors to permanently plumb a priming bulb into the car. Removes the worry if i ever happen to run out of diesel, and minimises the chance of dirt entering the system.
The old XUD peugeot engines among others used to have a priming bulb permanently plumbed in, so i don't see why it wouldn't work. It's a lot cheaper than fitting the electric lift pump and tank from a 2.2. |
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14th Feb 2017 2:11am |
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| agentmulder Member Since: 16 Apr 2016 Location: Outer Space Posts: 1324
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All work expended in the vehicle ultimately taps from the power source (the engine) - over time, this equates to fuel (energy).
With that in mind, is the minimal, but added resistance between the tank and the transfer pump really necessary? Solved the bowel problem, working on the consonants... Last edited by agentmulder on 14th Feb 2017 9:49am. Edited 1 time in total |
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14th Feb 2017 2:16am |
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| B4Lamb Member Since: 21 Mar 2015 Location: Abergavenny, Wales Posts: 233
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Yes there is a resistance to pull fuel through the 1 way valve in the pump, not a huge force to overcome but indeed some energy is required. I would say its just another thing to go wrong and rot in the fuel line. Why not just keep the pump in the car for the rare occasions you run out of fuel. Its easy enough to remove the cap from the T joint near the top of the engine insert the pump and draw fuel up. "You are never to old to learn something new"
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14th Feb 2017 5:56am |
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| B4Lamb Member Since: 21 Mar 2015 Location: Abergavenny, Wales Posts: 233
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Here is what I found black sticky blob in fuel poured out of old filter  Click image to enlarge top view of the same Click image to enlarge Draining the residual dirty water from the old filter Click image to enlarge Muck in the water drain plug but mostly from the outside of the filter so not internal Click image to enlarge "You are never to old to learn something new" |
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14th Feb 2017 6:21am |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17603
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"Black blob" = microbial growth AKA "the diesel bug", I think.
it might be worth bunging a fungicidal treatment in the next fuel fill. |
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14th Feb 2017 9:05am |
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| B4Lamb Member Since: 21 Mar 2015 Location: Abergavenny, Wales Posts: 233
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Yes good point Blackwolf, I always thought that was more of an issue on marine diesel tanks as they hang around for ages with no churn. I've never seen what the bug actually looks like, I should of kept a sample to look at with a microscope.
Cheers john "You are never to old to learn something new" |
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14th Feb 2017 10:41am |
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| zsd-puma Member Since: 09 Aug 2016 Location: Kent Posts: 2720
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Had the same issue with a fleet fuel bund once, ended up with 20 vans needing new fuel filters after several brakedowns.
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14th Feb 2017 10:50am |
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| zsd-puma Member Since: 09 Aug 2016 Location: Kent Posts: 2720
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One more thing to clutter the inside of the car. and it stinks of Diesel.
Plenty of cars used to have a priming bulb on them permanently, i don't remember ever having one rot out. I've seen them perish on boat engines, but that's usually down to them being exposed to the sun. I would think the added load on the pump would be negligible, certainly no more than a slightly dirty filter. I think i'll try it, if it doesnt work i can always remove it again and use it as the service tool. I don't think the fuel line from LR cost much. |
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14th Feb 2017 10:56am |
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