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xcentric



Member Since: 17 Jan 2016
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looks like the drain plug extends a bit beyond the sump - anyone had any issues with it being knocked off-road?
Post #597381 29th Jan 2017 5:57pm
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Daisy90



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United Kingdom 2001 Defender 90 Td5 SW Alveston Red
I don't do extreme off reading or pay n play days in this one, but plenty of long Greenlanes and a few trips to the Pyrenees in the snow etc,
I haven't had any issues what so ever and never noticed any scrapes on the cover, I popped the std drain plug in me spares bag "just in case " but after a bout four years and many oil changes its been 100%

I have reccomended and fitted then to a few vehicles since mine,

Hope that helps Thumbs Up
Post #597396 29th Jan 2017 6:37pm
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Martin 01



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Always do my own oils & filters.
I'm no mechanic but do enjoy the satisfaction of knowing it's been done by myself.
No special tools required unless the filter is to tight.
I buy the full service kit from my local suppliers and the filters are Mann.
Oil is 5-30, the more you buy the cheaper it is. I usually buy it in 20l so good for couple of changes.
Post #597474 29th Jan 2017 8:46pm
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gazman



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United Kingdom 2003 Defender 90 Td5 HT Alpine White
my best mate has his own garage so I get everything at cost. It usually costs me about 25 quid for the oil and both filters, so I do them every 5k miles or 6 months.
The diffs, gearbox etc get done every 2nd change unless I've had it wading or something 2014 - current ..... 2003 defender td5 90 (my car)
2009 - current .... 2005 zx10r
Post #597784 30th Jan 2017 8:40pm
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BCdefender



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Canada 1999 Defender 110 Td5 CSW Orkney Grey
roel wrote:
quality brand filters may even be better then genuine. Twisted Evil

Download the servicesheet and follow that.

The td5 main filter is nat very easy placed but still better the on the D3 V8. I can't replace them without making a mess. I just break it loose with my chaintype spanner and then get a plastic bag and push it as fa as possible over it and then unsrew it by hand. That saves me a lot off oil on the ground.

I don't know if you downloaded the Rave 02 disc allready it will help you a lot if you never done this before. The first time it will take you some time but after the second time you ask yourself: Why did I pay for this in the past? Mr. Green

Do it, I find it very rewarding.


Just downloaded the RAVE 02 disc. Much better way to Navigate the PDF's!

Thanks for the great tips. 1999 Defender 110
2003 P38
2007 RR SC

"And that's why it needs to be celebrated, because when the Defender goes we'll have lost this pointer to where we came from, and we're really going to miss it."

My build thread: http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic47750.html
Post #597812 30th Jan 2017 9:16pm
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Nick666



Member Since: 23 Mar 2016
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United Kingdom 1986 Defender 90 2.5 n/a Diesel SW Yellow
xcentric wrote:
looks like the drain plug extends a bit beyond the sump - anyone had any issues with it being knocked off-road?


Femco also make a compact version which sticks out less. I had the standard on a previous truck and worked really well, not heard of them getting knocked off but guess it's always a risk.

One thing I was recommended and have found really handy is the wide-mouth oil drain pans with a built in spout for pouring into a waste container. Like this (you can get them cheaper):

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B000RO13SM/

Just get the biggest one you can, then you don't have to worry about it overflowing.
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dorsetsmith



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Post #597963 31st Jan 2017 9:33am
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roel



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Netherlands 2003 Defender 90 Td5 PU Caledonian Blue
I use a big bucket with a piece of wood.
The wood is important as after getting oil in the bucket I can lift it off the wood and then pull it sideways from under the 90. Roel

1984 90 2.5 na Diesel - RR V8 (1994-2001)
1997 Camel Trophy Discovery 300TDI (2001-2009)
2005 G4 Discovery III 4.4 V8 (2008-2018) It's gone but it still hurts.
2003 90 Td5 (2009-now)
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L90DNY



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United Kingdom 2006 Defender 90 Td5 HT Corris Grey
Someone has made a youtube video that runs you through most things -

Might help you to get an idea. They do give some incorrect info at the end about the bleeding the fuel system, you need to turn the key half way and push the accelerator 5 times instead.

I recently did mine with no issues, all fairly straight forward. Good luck with the stubborn bolts!
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bankz5152



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2004 Defender 110 Td5 DCPU Epsom Green
I would agree, doing it yourself is better. It's not very difficult to do. The only thing that can be a pain are the oil filters. The main filter can be tight to remove as there isnt alot of space! As for the centrifugal filter the 'nuts' in the spinner housing can thread and become useless, so do not over tighten!
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roel



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Netherlands 2003 Defender 90 Td5 PU Caledonian Blue
They should at least have checked the other oils too. Roel

1984 90 2.5 na Diesel - RR V8 (1994-2001)
1997 Camel Trophy Discovery 300TDI (2001-2009)
2005 G4 Discovery III 4.4 V8 (2008-2018) It's gone but it still hurts.
2003 90 Td5 (2009-now)
Post #598741 2nd Feb 2017 10:26pm
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BCdefender



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Canada 1999 Defender 110 Td5 CSW Orkney Grey
Vogler wrote:
You'll probably need some extra tools, especially a Torx T55 for the transfer box filler plug. Furthermore a 1/2" drive ratchet for most plugs, and a large hex spanner (I think 32mm) or a 3/8 drive ratchet for the gearbox - the two latter depending on the year of production (pre or post 2005).

J

Edit: Thx for the correction below ibexman.


So essentially:

Torx T55 for the transfer box filler plug vs main gear box
1/2" drive ratchet for most plugs
large hex spanner (I think 32mm) or a 3/8 drive ratchet for the gearbox

That's about it for the tools I would need to change most of the fluids myself?

Thanks!

Going to read the service manual a few times before I tackle this and watch that video again... 1999 Defender 110
2003 P38
2007 RR SC

"And that's why it needs to be celebrated, because when the Defender goes we'll have lost this pointer to where we came from, and we're really going to miss it."

My build thread: http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic47750.html
Post #601669 14th Feb 2017 1:52am
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Vogler



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Belgium 2015 Defender 110 Td5 HT Chawton White
Yes, assuming that:
- you have a 1/2 and 1/4 ratchet set. The centrifugal filter requires an 8mm socket on an extension
- the main oil filter is cooperative and lets itself unscrew by hand

In a worst case scenario when a gearbox plug is very stuck and you decide to remove the propshaft to create space for a big wrench, then a propshaft removal tool comes in handy.
On the note of Loctite, someone advised yesterday to use Loctite 572 if you decide to use a sealant.
And while you're at it: take the habit to grease the uj's and the propshafts too. I use a small one-hand grease pump (example)which makes life a lot easier in the cramped space under the car.

On the risk of diverging off topic or writing things that you'll likely know, let me remind you that if you'd jack up wheel, that you must use difflock and use wheel chocks.

Good luck,

Joris
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zsd-puma



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United Kingdom 2010 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Santorini Black
Genuine filters aren't normally too bad for price when you compare them to quality branded ones, if your dealer gives you a discount - they can all give you trade discount if they like.

Fluids are almost always extortionately expensive from the dealer though. Buy branded oil, it doesn't have to be Castrol or Mobil. Comma or Millers is fine, just dont get Tesco's own or Britpart grey bottle, it might be fine, but then again it might not be. But saying that, Cheap oil changed more frequently than expensive stuff left in too long is always going to be better. As an example, the ATF for my old Range Rover was £30 a litre retail from Land Rover (it cost the dealer £20 a litre and they discounted it to 22), but i could get the same stuff in the same Mobil bottles from a local factor for £10 a litre - I needed 8 litres so £80 vs £240....

On the TD5, i think you're supposed to change the Centrifuge filter every oil change, but then main filter only every 60k or something, but given the small cost of a filter you may as well change both every time.

It's worth getting a decent drain pan, they're much less prone to spilage and you can pour the oil out much more easily. You can get them where you can seal the old oil in then transport it to your local tip for recycling, it's much easier than trying to pour it back into an old bottle. I have a few cars though, so i've got a jerry can i transport it to the tip in.
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huffhuff



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United Kingdom 2001 Defender 90 Td5 HT Java Black
Well timed thread.

I've booked this afternoon off and am going to change my gear box, transfer box and diff oils. Not sure when they were done last. I didn't the engine oil not that long ago. Will also grease all the nipples I can find (not forgetting my swing away carrier)

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Discovery 3 HSE
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