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| Caterham Member Since: 06 Nov 2008 Location: Birmingham Posts: 6328   
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 Click image to enlarge No idea how these things REALLY Work but oh boy this is MUCH quicker the way you pull away from stuff behind is quite staggering - not just the speed as I've no doubt there are no end of cars that are actually quicker but the way it does it is as though the def is doing it and not the driver - completed effortlessly 
Will be doing 200 miles tomorrow so will be interesting to see how it goes with a mix of driving. Click image to enlarge |
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7th Apr 2015 7:34pm |
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| Caterham Member Since: 06 Nov 2008 Location: Birmingham Posts: 6328
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so the clatter / knocking is gone. over 200 miles yesterday with new steering / track rods fitted (along with ball joints) and no clatter.
in terms of performance following the new intercooler / IRB 450 upgrade theres not much more to say other than its significantly quicker - deceptively so. engine doesn't seem to be working any harder but the increase across the range is obvious. pulling away quickly in second is not only effortless but once moving it's surprising just how quick 2nd gear comes and goes. I understand the latest 'map' is a little smoother than previous and although throttle response is still more responsive than the original you don't need to concentrate so much between being on / off the gas to achieve a smooth transition. I'd love to report that economy has improved from 37mpg to 40+ but alas I can't, however this 3 in 1 oil...I mean remap has done just that - made 3 things go quicker, the speedo, rev counter and fuel gauge. Once the honeymoon period is over however I'll be looking to see how the economy has been affected. for now I can only report 240miles on the first half tank. |
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9th Apr 2015 12:01pm |
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| Caterham Member Since: 06 Nov 2008 Location: Birmingham Posts: 6328
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Just back from a long trip and the last few miles were nothing less than brill.
The engine / induction sounds great, smooth and effortlessly quick. And contrary to above I have managed 40mpg. The 2.4 to me is an excellent compromise between performance, economy and longevity  Last edited by Caterham on 7th Oct 2016 6:26pm. Edited 1 time in total |
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6th Oct 2016 8:50pm |
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| Froglaise Member Since: 24 Sep 2016 Location: left forum Posts: 212 |
Just read though this thread. Really a much better use of my time than that Alan Sugar bloke who's on the telly in the background.
Caterham, i think this sentence "The 2.4 to me is an excellent compromise better performance, economy and longevity" says it all and that's what I'll (eventually) have in mine to play with. |
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6th Oct 2016 10:16pm |
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| Caterham Member Since: 06 Nov 2008 Location: Birmingham Posts: 6328
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Don't get me wrong a 6.5ltr v8 with all the other components upgraded accordingly would be a great fun thing not as an everyday practical motor.
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7th Oct 2016 6:28pm |
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| Defender13 Member Since: 19 Dec 2016 Location: Adelaide Posts: 7  
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Hello guys, just being curious if anybody here tried the Quantum Pro re-map.
http://www.quantumtuning.co.uk/ecu-remap-tuning.aspx I have it for more than two years now, and the difference is significant. I did not want to increase the power and torque - no need really and most important thing is - the drive line is not built for that increase. What I have asked for and got it delivered was the torque of 360 Nm stretched across as wide range of revs as possible. So the torque starts to be rising up rapidly from about 1400 rpm and has the peak at about 1600-1650 and continues in a nice flat(ish) curve to about 3300 rpm and then it starts to drop off. As I am using mostly the range between 1400 and 3000 rpm it is perfect. The little side effect of that re-map is that the true torque is slightly higher - about 5% increase in peaks compared to the factory output. That is acceptable and safe for the drive line. What else had changed; well, the engine run is very smooth, no flat spots, smooth gear changes, plenty of acceleration in any gear if needed, and economy increased quite a bit. When fully loaded (ca. 3.5 t) and cruising on average at about 117 - 125kph on open roads in the middle of nowhere the original 13.5 litres dropped to about 11.7 litres per 100 km, and if behaving a bit better  driving at 90kph to 110kph it is about 10.5. Btw. the loading includes the roof rack full of gear, too.
In peak traffic going to work and back and driving by the book  (daily about 52 km) it does about 9.5 litres per 100 km. Which is not too bad for an HD 110. If asked - no you cannot do this one at home, as it requires quite a gear and SW to be done. It has software blocked EGR and I have it blanked as well. They did for me a "ghost" copy of my ECU, too, so if in an unlikely event I kill my ECU, it is a matter of about 15 minutes to swap it for the copied ECU and I can continue in my trip without any hassle. And yes, you pay for the software installation the same amount as for your truck ECU re-map  . The base for my tuning is called by them BLUE re-map and they always slightly tweak that "stock" map to your own vehicle for optimising it as much as possible. They have other two "stock" settings - GREEN - for fleet vehicles and RED for maximum performance if you like to wear out your vehicle very fast but with lots of fun  . In my view, this was an excellent choice and the driving experience confirms it fully. |
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20th Dec 2016 9:33pm |
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| simon67 Member Since: 18 Jun 2015 Location: west sussex Posts: 569 
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So advice then
Currently the TD5 has an Alive stage 1 remap and EGR blanked When the Stage 1 was fitted by the agent, the MAF was knackered and I replaced this month Funnily enough performance is now much better - strange that If the remap was completed with a faulty MAF, should the remap be checked? Without going mad to a stage 2 as I cannot see the point of spending £1K for an extra 13 bhp, what should be on the options list? Was thinking of an Alive stainless exhaust with decat and leaving it as that |
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21st Dec 2016 12:19pm |
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| Defender13 Member Since: 19 Dec 2016 Location: Adelaide Posts: 7
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Hello Simon67, I am afraid I am not familiar with Td5 engine, my engine is Puma 2.2 - a very different unit.
On another side I am a bit surprised your tuner did not pick the MAF issue when he worked on it. There is a fair chance that the "stock" code he used for re-map is simply expecting certain MAF values when working, hence when you replaced your sensor, the output became correct resulting in better engine run. This is only my assumption - I am professional engineer but I am not tuning or electronics expert. It might be worthwile to see him again just to check that it is all good now. Regarding the tuning requirement, you have to ask yourself what do you want to do with your vehicle. Is it racing you want to do, or is it just robust, reliable family / friends vehicle that will deliver you everywhere (well, within a reason 😉). In the first case your price is wear, tear and an early write off, and excesive cost, of course. The second case is my personal preference. Many people do not understand that changing (increasing) power & torque outputs will eventually damage the drive line - gearbox, transfer case, all shafts and diffs. Read your drive line specs from land rover, in particular the allowed max torque inputs for the above items. You pass limits on those and you WILL pay the price. Tuning is about optimising the torque and power curve characteristics. (See my previous entry.) And you are right, paying thousand quid for 13 bhp is a bit too hard to justify 😉. This maybe does not help you technically but maybe it is worthwile for thought or two. All the best. |
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21st Dec 2016 8:03pm |
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