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| nosnibod Member Since: 15 Aug 2007 Location: West Midlands Posts: 370   
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Er, um, well that wasn't supposed to happen  Not quite sure what to say.
 Dave
Green Goddess - 1998 Defender 110 300tdi |
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2nd Dec 2016 9:26pm |
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| Rashers Member Since: 21 Jun 2015 Location: Norfolk Posts: 3525 
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I suppose it was better than the rear end falling off you Defender?
And you won't go cold this winter with all that fire wood you now have. I just feel for the horse |
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2nd Dec 2016 10:21pm |
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| VVS210 Member Since: 12 Nov 2016 Location: Hampshire Posts: 953
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As already said, when I move ours I go round with a bar & pry each end of both runners out of the ground first to make sure they aren't dug in & to make sure the structure is still sound. Ours is built on metal skids & can be hooked up with an A frame although I prefer a pair of straps & D shackles. Use low box & no diff lock but the 90 is wearing XZLs
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2nd Dec 2016 10:25pm |
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| JOW240725 Member Since: 04 May 2015 Location: Suffolk Posts: 7907 
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Sorry it did make me chuckle. Lucky the front of the shelter didn't end up through the back window!
 James
MY2012 110 2.2TDCi XS SW Orkney Grey - http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic43410.html MY1990 110 200TDi SW beautifully faded Portofino Red - https://www.defender2.net/forum/post743641.html#743641 MY1984 90 V8 Slate Grey - https://www.defender2.net/forum/post744557.html#744557 Instagram @suffolk_rovers |
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2nd Dec 2016 10:49pm |
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| JBC Member Since: 21 Apr 2013 Location: Rutland Posts: 155 |
Well that was my comment to Sue! "Thank goodness it didn't hit Dorris!" Sue said "look at my shelter!!!" "Oh. Yes. It's bad isn't it? I can fix it!" Says I. It took a while before we laughed....but we did in the end. It's only a shelter after all. Any way. I now know what I'm doing twixtmas...
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2nd Dec 2016 11:06pm |
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| DAZ110 Member Since: 06 Dec 2007 Location: East Sussex Posts: 2046
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It had to end this way didn't it ?, when you think about it!
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2nd Dec 2016 11:55pm |
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| DSC-off Member Since: 16 Oct 2014 Location: North East Posts: 1432 
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My mistake, the OP's defender should indeed have TC on front and rear axles. 
Around 10 years ago I had a TD5 XS, and was told by a mechanic that it had rear axle only TC, the same as some RRC and early P38s upto 1998. Apparently the later P38s and all Disco2 had TC front and rear. I don't know for sure if the TD5 Defender was rear only, or if so when it changed to F & R. Would be interested to find out if anyone knows. |
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3rd Dec 2016 12:51am |
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| JWL Member Since: 26 Oct 2011 Location: Hereford Posts: 3443  
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The Td5 uses the ABS system sensors in "reverse" i.e. when the wheel, any wheel, spins faster than the limit then the modulator applies pulses of the brake on that particular wheel.
So it's not just limited to any one axle. This set up can only work for short periods as the pulsing generates heat in the modulator block and a safety factor that's built into the ECM shuts off the function. This can be a little disconcerting to you as a driver because if you're three parts of the way through a tricky loose surfaced hill climb the traction control will cut off leaving you unable to get the grip you require. You give up, depress the clutch so you can get reverse gear engaged to control your descent and at the same time the clutch goes down you realise that the brake pedal is solid and won't depress! Gravity takes over in the blink of an eye and usually before you have selected reverse and you become a passenger on a rapid return in the direction you have come from! No matter how much you frantically keep trying the brake pedal, nothing will happen untill it's ready, underpants can be soiled in this short time
I'm sure I read somewhere that the modulator block can be operating the application of the brakes at something like twenty times per second or it might be the time line of the sensors sending signals to the ECM. |
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3rd Dec 2016 1:11am |
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| Sadi Member Since: 23 Jul 2015 Location: Windhoek Posts: 334  
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Some very useful replies here.
Slightly off topic: in mud, snow or especially deep sand - if traction is the same poor quality for all 4 wheels - i.e. no real difference for TC to detect and act upon - there wouldn't be any benefit then? (not calling upon "airing down" here) Would TC in this case be more of a hindrance - i.e. trying and braking and thus actually hindering momentum? Better then to switch it off - if possible? Anyone here with experience of DSC - as per 2014 on Defenders? Manual describes it is better to switch DSC off in above circumstances - but must admit I haven't tried it yet. Also - DSC equipped Defenders: does the TC warning light actually illuminate when TC in action - in my vehicle definitely not - only shows up when ignition is switched on. But I can feel & hear TC working. Thanks !! |
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3rd Dec 2016 4:47am |
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| mse Member Since: 06 Apr 2008 Location: UK Posts: 5038 
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All the sand and snow ive driven in ive turned DSC/TC off - its always felt better that way Mike
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3rd Dec 2016 11:48am |
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| nosnibod Member Since: 15 Aug 2007 Location: West Midlands Posts: 370
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The sensor in a DSC-equipped Defender is intended to detect side loading vs steering angle. As far as I can tell as well as instructing the ABS to brake different wheels it will also cut engine power. That works well on-road, but this is a Land Rover, so...
Off-road there may be situations where you don't want the power to be reduced; for example in a hill-climb using a bit of speed and momentum. If things get a bit shaky - for example going over bumps etc - then the DSC might cut the power. So the general rule is to turn off the DSC if you need to power over or up something. Otherwise just leave it enabled. Dave Green Goddess - 1998 Defender 110 300tdi |
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3rd Dec 2016 3:16pm |
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| Sadi Member Since: 23 Jul 2015 Location: Windhoek Posts: 334
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Thank you all.
Will give it a try. Was hoping to get some info whilst doing a LR Experience day - but only available in South Africa - but unavailable during the year end vacation. |
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4th Dec 2016 5:29am |
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| Wild Card 90 Member Since: 03 Dec 2014 Location: Gerlingen Posts: 1060 
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JBC, your plight with the shelter reminded me of this.
Kiwi Toyoty Pickup ad..
1998 Tdi 90 SW, 2008 Td4 90 SW, 2012 2.2 90 SW, 2" raised Trailmaster/Terrafirma Heavy Track Raids, 255 MTīs, Recaro CSīs, anorak, wellingtons |
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4th Dec 2016 6:17am |
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| JBC Member Since: 21 Apr 2013 Location: Rutland Posts: 155 |
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4th Dec 2016 8:31am |
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