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Projectblue



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British Special Forces move away from Defender in quick time
To be honest, they are probably using something more local looking because nothing says "SAS" more than a Desert LRP or WMK.

https://www.facebook.com/search/top/?q=bbc%20news%20syria%20


But it's still interesting and I'm drooling over those Land Cruisers. New project and it's green: www.projectoverland.info
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Cupboard



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Saw them the other day, heavily modified 79 pickups, they look tidy.
Not much information about them but apparently they're full time 4x4 which is interesting because the 70 series are usually part time. Maybe they're using 80 or 105 series parts - I know some people fit 80 series axles to the rear so they can have rear coils.
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I presume that for the link to work you have to have a facebook account? All I seem to get is a picture of someone who may be meant to be Jesus (or perhaps D Beckham esq) plus some foreign words. Big Cry
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blackwolf



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More interesting than Beckham/Jesus!
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Re: British Special Forces move away from Defender in quick
Link didnt work for me either. Thanks Steve

Projectblue wrote:
To be honest, they are probably using something more local looking because nothing says "SAS" more than a Desert LRP or WMK.


Might be more local, but they're still not what you'd call subtle Shocked 2007 - Stornoway Grey 90 XS SW - Gone
2002 - Black Discovery II - Gone
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Luckily, as they are special forces and trying to keep a low cover there are not pictures of them floating around the internet......... Running Restoration Thread http://www.defender2.net/forum/post323197.html#323197

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^^^ Rolling with laughter 2007 - Stornoway Grey 90 XS SW - Gone
2002 - Black Discovery II - Gone
2014 - Montalcino Red 110 XS SW
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Projectblue



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Sorry it was FB article, I couldn't find it on the proper BBC site so thanks Hairysteve Thumbs Up

It says photographed in June, so presume there was a D notice on it until now and like Rosco says, not exactly subtle.

Wonder how they are going to perform?

Also in the photo's are a number of low loader transports which I assume to have carried the LRP's to the location. New project and it's green: www.projectoverland.info
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Stripped down Defender WOLF / WMIK hasn't been used by UKSF since 2007 odd, sorry to disappoint. Sandy
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I live a mile from Cambusbarron army proving & training ground and regularly see Wolf cabrios in many guises being put through their paces. Must weigh double with all the kit bolted on? 2008 RS4 gone, 123d M Sport, and a Puma 90 XS..
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In 1999 Ricardo Vehicle Engineering, under contract to the MoD, produced the first WMIK variant of Land Rover's popular Land Rover 110 series. The WMIK (Weapons Mount Installation Kit) was based on the military version of the 110, the Truck Utility Medium (TUM). The WMIK featured a strengthend chasis, a roll bar cage and a series of weapons mounts.

The WMIK was designed as a reconnaissance and fire support vehicle. Mounts for various weapons systems allow the WMIK to be armed in a range of configurations.

the rear roll bar cage features a well in which a gunner can stand and swing his weapon in a 360 degree arc of fire around on a rail. The rear station can be fitted with an .50 cal HMG, a 40mm GMG grenade launcher or a 7.62mm GPMG. A Milan missile launcher can also be attached to the rear roll bars.
the passenger side (usually the vehicle commander's station) has a pintle-mount where a GPMG is usually fitted.
WMIK Land Rover





A British Army WMIK Land Rover on patrol in Iraq, 2006.
Image by Cpl Ian Forsyth | © UK MOD / Crown Copyright 2006
Used under Open Government Licence
Land Rover WMIKs have been used by UK forces in a range of operations.

The Pathfinder Platoon were seen driving WMIK during NATO peacekeeping duties in Macedonia, 1999.
WMIKs operated by the Royal Irish Rangers were captured by rebels in Sierra Leone, along with 11 Rangers. Both the men and WMIKs were later rescued by the SAS, SBS and Paras in Operation Barras.
The Royal Marines used WMIKs during assaults on Iraqi-held cities and towns of Southern Iraq during Operation Telic, 2003.
Paras from the Pathfinder Platoon carried out recon and offensive operations across the Iraqi border during Operation Telic, 2003.
Both the Royal Marines Brigade Patrol Troop and the PARA's Pathfinder Platoon have used the WMIKs as for recon and assault operations in Afghanistan.
The Land Rover WMIKs were lightly armoured and several were shot up and disabled by small arms fire in operations in Afghanistan. They also provided little to no protection against IEDs. The ballistic protection on some WMIKs were augmented with the use of Kevlar flaps across the more vulnerable points.

Another problem with the WMIK was that it's narrow wheels could cause it struggle to transverse some of the off-road ground found in Afghanistan.

Land Rover WMIK Specifications

Engine Land Rover 300 Tdi engine 111 hp (83 kW)
Maximum speed 160 kph on mettled road
Suspension 4x4
Weight 3.35 tonnes
Max Range 573km
Armaments 1 rear mount for :
.50 HMG
40mm GMG
7.62mm GPMG
Milan anti-tank missile launcher

1 passenger-side mount for 7.62mm GPMG
Several upgraded models of WMIK Land Rovers were subsequently developed:

EWMIK

An enhanced WMIK, the EWMIK, was developed for deployment to Afghanistan and deployed in late 2006. The EWMIK featured additional under-belly armour in the form of a Modular Armour Protection Installation Kit (MAPIK). The vehicles were also fitted with an electronic counter measures (ECM) suite to protect against IEDs. The EWMIKs were configured with FFR (Fitted for Radio) fitments - an advanced BOWMAN setup featuring 2 HF radios and 1 VHF set. The EWMIK upped the gross vehicle weight (GVW) from 3.5 tonnes to 4.1

RWMIK

Further upgrades to the WMIK platform came in the form of the Revised Weapons Mount Installation Kit (RWMIK) vehicle. This model boasted more improvements to the vehicle's armour - this time built into the chasis rather than as a bolt-on addition, as was the case with the EWMIK. RMWIKs were configured with a standard BOWMAN radio fitment. The RWMIK began being deployed in 2009.

rwmik Land Rover





Gunners from B Flight, 27 Squadron, RAF Regiment patrol in a RWMIK Land Rover near Kandahar Airfield, Afghanistan, January 2010. The RWMIKs had armoured bases to protect against mines. note the MAPIK strap-on armour kits covering rear upper body and a kevlar panel fitted across the commander's doorway.
U.S. Air Force photo by Tech. Sgt. Efren Lopez/Released
RWMIK+

The RWMIK+ boasts a further enlargement to 4.7 tonnes GVW. It features seating for a 4-man crew, new rear axle, a 2.8-litre engine with automatic transmission, armoured doors and upper body panels and increased rollover protection (this includes fixing the vehicle commander's seat height and raising the rollbar height so the commander is always within roll bar protection in the case of a vehicle rollover). RWMIK+ vehicles were delivered by Ricado to the MoD between June 2010 and July 2011.

rwmik+ Land Rover





Soldiers with Bravo Company, 1st Battalion, Royal Irish Regiment, pictured aboard a RWMIK+ Land Rover, August 2015. The RWIMK+ is protected by lightweight, hard armoured panels.
U.S. Army photo by Sgt. Alexandra Hulett/Released
While the various upgrades were some improvement, British forces in Afghanistan gradually started employing better-protected vehicles in the recce, fire support and convoy protection roles. These vehicles, which were specifically designed to protect against mines and IEDs, included the MWMIK Jackal and Jackal 2. Sandy
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Really interesting thread.

The Army website seems to suggest that, whilst being replaced by the vector and mastiff, the snatch 2 and rwmik are both still in use.
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Nice RWMIK up for auction at the moment on Witham's current bid £20k https://whitelabel.globalauctionplatform.c...enturl=wca
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Fellrunner wrote:
Really interesting thread.

The Army website seems to suggest that, whilst being replaced by the vector and mastiff, the snatch 2 and rwmik are both still in use.


I believe they are, just not by gentlemen with long hair. Sandy
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