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| jk84 Member Since: 17 Feb 2015 Location: Wherever my Defender takes me... Posts: 720   
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Wondering if anyone tried to install the rear door gas strut with a hand riveter - or if a gun is a must? I don't have one and not economical to buy as I don't think I'll find a use for it apart from this. But if it's not really possible with a hand tool like the below (suitable for 4.8mm rivets) then I got to figure something else out.
http://www.screwfix.com/p/forge-steel-hand-riveter/6607c MY15 Aintree 110 SW - for sale - https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic82781.html MY16 Santorini 90 HT - sold |
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21st Jun 2016 8:57pm |
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| leeds Member Since: 28 Dec 2009 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 8581
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With a small hand riveter it is possible however you might struggle as handles are short and a reasonable amount of pressure is required.
So choices are apply strong hand pressure, beg, borrow a larger riveter or use some small size rivnuts. Brendan |
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21st Jun 2016 9:09pm |
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| isacs Member Since: 28 Aug 2015 Location: Leamington spa Posts: 404
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I did mine with a hand riveter. Takes a few squeezes
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21st Jun 2016 9:22pm |
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| jk84 Member Since: 17 Feb 2015 Location: Wherever my Defender takes me... Posts: 720
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Great, thanks for the advice gents - most helpful as always
 MY15 Aintree 110 SW - for sale - https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic82781.html
MY16 Santorini 90 HT - sold |
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21st Jun 2016 9:41pm |
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| Jonnie421 Member Since: 12 May 2015 Location: Wales Posts: 116  
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Yep . Did mine with a hand riveter ..A good squeeze and a strong grip needed .
The finished job is fab . A great help with the door ! Defender 90 Tonga green . My 2007 County .2.4Tdci puma .
Too many other Discos to mention, including a V8 petrol Disco3 and diesel Disco 3 !! ( All gone) |
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21st Jun 2016 9:44pm |
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| miker Member Since: 13 Sep 2015 Location: Surrey Posts: 1763 
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Whereabouts are you? I have a lazy tong riveter, much easier!
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21st Jun 2016 9:50pm |
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| jk84 Member Since: 17 Feb 2015 Location: Wherever my Defender takes me... Posts: 720
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Thanks miker - North London but travel to Cornwall almost weekly so wouldn't be difficult to stop by anywhere in Surrey. I'll get the hand tool first, 15 quid so worth a try, and if need be I may bother you at some point. MY15 Aintree 110 SW - for sale - https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic82781.html
MY16 Santorini 90 HT - sold |
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21st Jun 2016 10:18pm |
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| miker Member Since: 13 Sep 2015 Location: Surrey Posts: 1763
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No worries!
My other base is west london way anyhow! |
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21st Jun 2016 10:19pm |
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| Browny90 Member Since: 20 Jul 2015 Location: Derbyshire Posts: 183 
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prep it and pop into your nearest HGV/ bus Garage, chuck them a fiver and I'm sure they will use a compressed air riveter.. I think it holds the rivets much tighter and minimal effort! My 1986 90 is currently on a full rebuild, with new chassis, Paint etc.. Very much a hybrid, TD5 Chassis, tub & bulkhead with a 200TDI and LT77 GB Painted in Stornoway Grey
 2 years off the road, but getting close to completion now |
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22nd Jun 2016 6:51am |
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| Happyoldgit Member Since: 14 Sep 2007 Location: Norfolk Posts: 3471 
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Just buy a decent riveter and be done with it. You've already discovered one job that would be easier with the right tools who's to say there won't be others you will come across at some point in the future? Defenders have loads of rivets and jobs that require rivets but they are also a useful fastener in other applications too. Steve.
Owned numerous Land Rover vehicles of all shapes and sizes over the decades. Current Defender: A non tarts hand-bagged Puma 110 XS USW. [Insert something impressive here such as extensive list of previous Land Rovers or examples of your prestigeous and expensive items, trinkets, houses, bikes, vehicles etc] http://forums.lr4x4.com I used to be Miserable ...but now I'm ecstatic. |
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22nd Jun 2016 11:22am |
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| JOW240725 Member Since: 04 May 2015 Location: Suffolk Posts: 7905 
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If I may tag on to this thread... I assume we're possibly talking about the Overlander (Nakatanenga) Rear Door Stay v2? The door not staying open is a pain sometimes so like the look of this, however I have two concerns I'd appreciate some user comments on:-
1. Any issues with it bending door frame? 2. The other day I was parked in a tight spot and could only open the door just enough to get something in. Obviously the strut is trying to force it fully open, but is it easy to stop it part open? Thank you. James MY2012 110 2.2TDCi XS SW Orkney Grey - http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic43410.html MY1990 110 200TDi SW beautifully faded Portofino Red - https://www.defender2.net/forum/post743641.html#743641 MY1984 90 V8 Slate Grey - https://www.defender2.net/forum/post744557.html#744557 Instagram @suffolk_rovers |
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22nd Jun 2016 11:38am |
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| Cupboard Member Since: 21 Mar 2014 Location: Suffolk Posts: 2971 
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Yes I did, because I was being lazy I couldn't be bothered to go and get the lazy tongs.
In future I wouldn't be lazy, it was far more effort than doing it with the right tool. I got them as tight as I could by hand, then put a ratchet clamp round the handles of the riveter to get some more leverage. It was a really stupid way of doing it and I'm a bit ashamed of it but there. Once I'd started I thought I might as well finish  |
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22nd Jun 2016 11:50am |
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| Dave-H Member Since: 08 Feb 2011 Location: Surrey Posts: 1507  
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I've fitted 3 of these in the last few years. Never used rivets, I used self tapping screws.
So much easier, can easily be removed/re-sited if required, easily tightened if it should work loose over time [as opposed to having to drill out and replace rivets] and secures as well [if not better] than rivets ... never had one work loose yet Guns and Landrovers .... anything else is irrelevant. |
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22nd Jun 2016 1:03pm |
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| jk84 Member Since: 17 Feb 2015 Location: Wherever my Defender takes me... Posts: 720
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Well, a lot of helpful advice as always. In the end ordered the lazy tong riveter that miker and Cupboard mentioned. Not the strongest of fellows so realised from the posts that better to get something more solid. Good points from Browny and Dave-H though. Surely the thread will help other newbies to the gas strut.
JOW - good questions - no experience yet obviously but my two pence worth from how I reasoned. Indeed it's the similar strut, mine is from mudstuff - I was getting the heat distributor for wife's 90, and searched through other bits - a dangerous practice. Don't know if it can cause any damage to the door frame, but there is a useful thread under Brandon's (leeds) section on here, and people haven't mentioned any mishaps. I imagine it will be an issue in tight spaces where you want to open the door only partially - probably of concern to people parking a lot around city - as it will push the door until fully opened. So you would need someone to hold the door for you or holding it with a spare hand - not ideal. I gave this some thought but then the number of times that the door hit me while parking outdoors meant it was of more importance to stop the Defender fighting with me  MY15 Aintree 110 SW - for sale - https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic82781.html
MY16 Santorini 90 HT - sold |
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22nd Jun 2016 2:01pm |
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