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| YOLO110 Member Since: 14 Feb 2015 Location: Perth Oz and Stansted UK Posts: 1642  
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I did go to my dealer... got the TADTS reply! Well, I know they actually don't... but I have been down a smilier road before and the replacement gearbox was worse than the original! Sometimes, better just to accept it and carry on...  YOLO... You Only Live Once... |
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1st May 2016 3:04am |
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| agentmulder Member Since: 16 Apr 2016 Location: Outer Space Posts: 1324 
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Yeah I got that from the mechanic, but I did note that he was less versed in the puma than all the other engines/transmissions he'd worked on over the decades.
I just wonder what it will turn in to eventually.... Time will tell. Bigger fish to fry in the meantime, like why is the dash clock now losing time since I replaced the bulb? I'd rather have a clock I cant see than one slow by 20mins !  |
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1st May 2016 3:09am |
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| YOLO110 Member Since: 14 Feb 2015 Location: Perth Oz and Stansted UK Posts: 1642
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... but time always passes more slowly in NZ mate!
 YOLO... You Only Live Once... |
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1st May 2016 3:27am |
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| williamthedog Member Since: 29 Dec 2012 Location: south wales Posts: 3441 
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Mines been like it from new as well, just got used to it now
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1st May 2016 6:39am |
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| Mac22 Member Since: 22 Nov 2013 Location: Merseyside Posts: 675  
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I've had it back under warranty three times now.
Initially had a long test drive with a techie and he shook his head from start to finish. It took that long to get it into second from the lights he missed first out for the duration... 
That was a new clutch and numerous parts of running gear all under 8K miles. The "suit" tried to blame the BAS remap for stressing the components too much..... The remap was done from the factory ordered by the hierarchy at Listers...(thats another story) but is was a courtesy car for a few weeks before I ended up with it, so it was prolly leathered from new.
Just had my second service and still issues with the clutch, they eventually changed the oil which has improved it some.. During the service there was an oil pump recall carried out, I won't even go into the palaver over LR charging me over the oil service even though it was done on the recall......I ended up only paying for new oil as during the recall LR make them catch the oil and reuse...Unbelievable. |
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1st May 2016 9:16am |
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| Roy5695 Member Since: 15 Feb 2014 Location: Cornwall Posts: 1123 
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My 110 had some harder bushes put in under the gear stick mounting points which cured mine, there is a how too on the forum I believe and it doesn't take all that long to do although i had mine done under warranty...
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1st May 2016 9:29am |
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| Birdy Member Since: 07 Oct 2011 Location: Côte d'Azur Posts: 864  
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"got the TADTS reply"
Some don't, some (most?) do, some get better, some (few?) get worse. But after a few months - and factory/dealer mod 308-00 (install gear lever spacer bushes like Roy) which made absolutely no difference at all - mine got so bad that on pulling away from lights, by the time I could get into second gear the truck had slowed down to nothing, very pleasing to vehicles behind! And at times before the gearbox warmed up I couldn't even engage first or reverse gears. Gearbox out, stripped, reassembled, luckily under warranty and, touch wood, now back to the normal TADTS slow and careful first to second shift. Peter Edited to add: even today, if conditions allow, i.e. unladen, level road or downward slope, I'll change directly from first to third and try to avoid second gear |
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1st May 2016 10:07am |
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| shipbadger Member Since: 10 Jan 2016 Location: Royal Forest of Dean Posts: 19 
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S'funny, just started reading this thread and all of a sudden a light came on in my brain! When I started my motoring career a well known trick for BMC cars was to change from first to neutral, waggle the gear lever a bit and then select second gear. There was of course no syncro on first in those days and the second gear cones wore out very quickly. After a bit it became automatic. A couple of weeks ago I realised I was doing it in my Landy, must have noticed a slight baulking and automatically the old habit had kicked in. Strange how things come round again.
Tony Comber |
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1st May 2016 12:25pm |
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| tuesdayfox Member Since: 23 Jun 2013 Location: Sydney,OZ Posts: 129 
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mine initially has the same problem, but I just push the gear-nob ASSERTIVELY
At 40k kms I change the gearbox oil with motul 300 and now quite smooth from 1st to 2nd. it was a noticeable difference to me. I am sure other brands of oil can do the same. |
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3rd May 2016 1:48am |
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| agentmulder Member Since: 16 Apr 2016 Location: Outer Space Posts: 1324
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Interesting...
Gearbox oil change changed nought for me (did it myself with the correct stuff). I've since tried wiggling the lever to the right (5-6 direction) before slipping to second - 'shipbadger' style  - too early to be conclusive, but first impressions are that it's much smoother and occasionally perfect. |
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3rd May 2016 3:12am |
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| Pickles Member Since: 26 May 2013 Location: Melbourne Posts: 3782 
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Don't think any gear changing "method" will make any difference,...it's obviously something to do with the design & working of the syncro going into 2nd gear.
Pickles. |
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3rd May 2016 3:14am |
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| agentmulder Member Since: 16 Apr 2016 Location: Outer Space Posts: 1324
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Way I see it is that if a design fault causes something different to happen - e.g. clunk between 1st and 2nd - then it's plausible that a user doing something different may cause the clunk to not happen.
While it's never guaranteed that these 'two wrongs make a right' situations work out - and correlation is not causation etc. etc. - but it's still possible. I'm happy for the sake of it to give it a try, hardly any effort.  
So far it's working. I use colloidal silver also.  |
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3rd May 2016 3:22am |
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| MartinK Member Since: 02 Mar 2011 Location: Silverdale (Lancashire/Cumbria Border) Posts: 2665 
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Have you read this:
http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic29132.html Cheers Edit  should not apply to you---yours is too new... Defender "Puma" 2.4 110 County Utility (possibly the last of the 2.4's) |
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3rd May 2016 6:27am |
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| agentmulder Member Since: 16 Apr 2016 Location: Outer Space Posts: 1324
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Interesting, mine is in range...
Those spacers, anyone got the dimensions? What material were they made of? So you cant get the spacers in without loosening the lower right bolt under the difflock? Solved the bowel problem, working on the consonants... |
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3rd May 2016 7:03am |
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