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Alien



Member Since: 18 Jan 2015
Location: Bacchus Marsh
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Australia 
Centre Diff shim service life- why I went to an ATB.
What service life are you getting from centre diff shims in your LT230 transfer box?
Signs for this could be brass flecks in the oil or drive line slap.

The reason I ask...
With some help from a couple of mates I've had the transfer box out/repaired/ refitted in a weekend.
The Puma has done 124'000km(77'000mile) so it had the normal intermidiate shaft leaks.
As it was coming out to check the gearbox coupling and fix the leaks I took the opportunity to order a ATB to eliminate centre Diff shim wear and driveline slap.
I learnt my lesson with the now gone Disco2 where it had worn 2 Diff shims at similar mileage.
I pulled the diff apart and here is the result.
1xmissing shim, 1x1/2 shim only, 2x extreamly worn shims.


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After a quick 30 minute run all I can say is WOW.
The drive line has been transformed and on dirt it feels far more positive.
A fortnight to go for the next weekend trip away to see how it goes towing and playing in the scrub.

Cheers Kyle. Cheers,
Kyle.
Post #528223 1st May 2016 5:52am
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geobloke



Member Since: 06 Nov 2012
Location: Nottinghamshire
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Hi Kyle. Interesting read. excuse my ignorance here. Now that you have the ATB installed in your transfer box does this mean you no longer have the ability to lock the centre diff? Or does it mean you retain this function but whilst your diff in not locked the ATB is sending power automatically where it is needed?
Post #528293 1st May 2016 11:28am
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Mountain_man



Member Since: 09 Dec 2011
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If it is the Ashcroft one then yes it can still be locked

http://www.ashcroft-transmissions.co.uk/di...-diff.html
Post #528294 1st May 2016 11:36am
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Alien



Member Since: 18 Jan 2015
Location: Bacchus Marsh
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Fitted an Ashcroft unit and as has been said it can still be locked when required Smile

Fitting the ATB was part of reducing known failure points as the Defender is used as an off road tourer rather then a daily driver. Cheers,
Kyle.
Post #528315 1st May 2016 1:40pm
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MadTom



Member Since: 10 Sep 2013
Location: Olomouc
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Czech Republic 1999 Defender 130 Td5 HCPU Baltic Blue
3 weeks ago I have just reconditioned the transfer box in our Disco2 with aprox. 200 000km. The diff shins were still there, with more than 50% thickness. I had to do it, because of oil leakage around the intermediate shaft. I was also thinking about the Aschrofts ATB, but the price is a bit high. So I have only used the HD cross pin. "Drobek" = The Small One - Discovery 2, "BlufĂ­nek" = The Blue Thing - Defender 130, and for me at least Ford Mondeo Smile
Post #528332 1st May 2016 4:58pm
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jwhat



Member Since: 19 Jan 2011
Location: Westmeath
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Ireland 2008 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Keswick Green
I'm getting a lot of slap in the drive train and mechanic suggested it was in the transfer box, would this be a diy install or should it be left to the professionals? Tdci 110 DC
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mikeh501



Member Since: 07 Jan 2013
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if you can remove your transfer box and dissaemble it, you should be fine Mr. Green
Post #528807 3rd May 2016 3:23pm
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