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jangtm76

Member Since: 04 Apr 2016
Location: Paris
Posts: 17

2015 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 Heritage Edition SW Grasmere Green

Diff gear position

Hi, All!

Just got my Landy yesterday and I'm enjoying every min.with it.

Quick question. I see orange light on the speedometer. Is this normal?

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5th Apr 2016 10:32am

Roy5695

Member Since: 15 Feb 2014
Location: Cornwall
Posts: 1123

2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS DCPU Indus Silver

that means the difflock is engaged, some might say to read the manual as driving around with it engaged will cause serious damage if driving on tarmac, move the little gearstick to the right!

5th Apr 2016 10:45am

Mash

Member Since: 09 Feb 2015
Location: Guernsey
Posts: 1674

If you have driven like that you may well of caused some wind-up, apply the t-brake and jack up a front wheel, as the tyre looses traction it shall spin slightly (note it will only spin if there is sufficient wind-up, normal use the wheel should remain still). 90 wolf - Jasmin http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic39408.html
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Think I might have a problem............

5th Apr 2016 11:00am

ericvv

Member Since: 02 Jun 2011
Location: Near the Jet d'Eau
Posts: 5816

2009 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SVX Station Wagon Santorini Black

Probably no need to jack up a wheel to undo eventual wind-up. Was all very well explained by Glyn in his below.

Eric

Glynparry25 wrote:
The Diff lock works off a spring on or off possition. When you select diff lock it nputs pressure on the spring- when the gears line up the collar slides across and locks them together (this then pushes the switch which puts the light on your dash.

When you dissengage the diff lock it does the opposite. it pulls the spring away and that then allows the collar to slide back which releases the two gears.... and the light goes off.

If you have 'wind up' where the two gears in the collar are tightly jammed in opposite directions it will not let the collart slide off and even though your transfer leaver is across the light is still on. This is when you reverse back and turn the steering from lock to lock (or jack up one wheel) as it releives the stress and the collar then is free to slide, and the light goes off.

The diff lock can't be half on.... well it could but only in extreme circumstances and it would be a one in a million chance.

So..... if the light is off, and you don't feel wind up (steering feels forced) then the diff lock is off and there will be no problems.
Glyn

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5th Apr 2016 11:46am

jangtm76

Member Since: 04 Apr 2016
Location: Paris
Posts: 17

Roy5695 wrote:
that means the difflock is engaged, some might say to read the manual as driving around with it engaged will cause serious damage if driving on tarmac, move the little gearstick to the right!

Oh, shoot! I've been driving like that all day long up to 100km yesterday.

Hope I didn't break anything. :/

Thanks for the info.

5th Apr 2016 4:35pm

jangtm76

Member Since: 04 Apr 2016
Location: Paris
Posts: 17

ericvv wrote:
Probably no need to jack up a wheel to undo eventual wind-up. Was all very well explained by Glyn in his below.
Eric

Glynparry25 wrote:
The Diff lock works off a spring on or off possition. When you select diff lock it nputs pressure on the spring- when the gears line up the collar slides across and locks them together (this then pushes the switch which puts the light on your dash.

When you dissengage the diff lock it does the opposite. it pulls the spring away and that then allows the collar to slide back which releases the two gears.... and the light goes off.

If you have 'wind up' where the two gears in the collar are tightly jammed in opposite directions it will not let the collart slide off and even though your transfer leaver is across the light is still on. This is when you reverse back and turn the steering from lock to lock (or jack up one wheel) as it releives the stress and the collar then is free to slide, and the light goes off.

The diff lock can't be half on.... well it could but only in extreme circumstances and it would be a one in a million chance.

So..... if the light is off, and you don't feel wind up (steering feels forced) then the diff lock is off and there will be no problems.
Glyn

So, I should drive under normal condition with the light off I guess?

5th Apr 2016 4:37pm

jangtm76

Member Since: 04 Apr 2016
Location: Paris
Posts: 17

Mash wrote:
If you have driven like that you may well of caused some wind-up, apply the t-brake and jack up a front wheel, as the tyre looses traction it shall spin slightly (note it will only spin if there is sufficient wind-up, normal use the wheel should remain still).

In English, please?

I don't have any knowledge on Defender's four wheel system.

Did I make a terrible mistake drivng like this? How do I solve the problem?
Thanks!

5th Apr 2016 4:47pm

dorsetsmith

Member Since: 30 Oct 2011
Location: South West
Posts: 4554

So, I should drive under normal condition with the light off (YES)

Diff lock , it locks front and rear drive together

5th Apr 2016 4:55pm

Happyoldgit

Member Since: 14 Sep 2007
Location: Norfolk
Posts: 3471

2015 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 USW Corris Grey

When that yellow light is lit there is a positive connection between the front and rear axles. For normal road use the light should be unlit / off / not showing.

Did the vehicle come with its handbook - if so may I respectfully suggest that you read it soon. Steve.
Owned numerous Land Rover vehicles of all shapes and sizes over the decades.
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5th Apr 2016 5:20pm

jangtm76

Member Since: 04 Apr 2016
Location: Paris
Posts: 17

My dealer didn't give me the manual

5th Apr 2016 5:22pm

wyvern

Member Since: 13 Dec 2009
Location: Cornwall
Posts: 2109

2012 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Firenze Red

jangtm76,
Welcome to the joys of landrover ownership and to the forum!

As the others have said , the light on the speedo should not be on for 'normal' onroad driving, so you should move the short lever to the right and into its normal position.
If the light does not go off, then slowly drive in reverse and move the steering wheel from full left to full right and it should go out.

As you are new to Defenders and landrover in general, may I suggest that you have a chat to your local landrover dealer and see if there are any offroad courses in the area that have the ability to show you what a remarkable vehicle you have bought.. in the UK we have landrover experience and they are able to take you through basic off road driving techniques and show you the limitations of your vehicle, how to use the various gears and give you confidence in how to use the defender in anger...
maybe see if any of our French members are nearby to meet up with you and go over the finer points - with a glass of wine or two..
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5th Apr 2016 5:28pm

Cupboard

Member Since: 21 Mar 2014
Location: Suffolk
Posts: 2971

2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 HT Corris Grey

So now we've learnt when the diff-lock should be off, now when it should be on:

Basically any time you're not a sealed road.

5th Apr 2016 5:42pm

dorsetsmith

Member Since: 30 Oct 2011
Location: South West
Posts: 4554

jangtm76 wrote:
My dealer didn't give me the manual

NO owners hand book or service portfolio

on 2015 110 land rover

5th Apr 2016 6:17pm

Doubledoom

Member Since: 27 Dec 2015
Location: Suffolk
Posts: 42

2016 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 SW Santorini Black

I didnt get one on mine to begin with. I had to ask for it. Even then I only got the manual as the service history is electronic now.

5th Apr 2016 10:06pm

jangtm76

Member Since: 04 Apr 2016
Location: Paris
Posts: 17

dorsetsmith wrote:
jangtm76 wrote:
My dealer didn't give me the manual

NO owners hand book or service portfolio on 2015 110 land rover

Found it

5th Apr 2016 10:15pm

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