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enfield_dinosaur



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2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SW Java Black
Footwell rust - and what to spray on it
Dear fellow forumites,

what a beautiful spring day it has been! Truly, there's no pleasure like crusing in a fine machine like the Defender 110, windows rolled down, the spring breeze warm and gentle...

Until you pick up your driver's side carpet and discover moisture, rust and corroding screws! Evil or Very Mad

You can see the problem in situ on the enclosed picture. I have by now a big assortment of various remedies to spray on such patches. Which one to choose?

FluidFilm? ACF? WD40? Fertan Anti-Rust?

Just this winter I had the bulkhead topped up with Mike Sanders rust prevention, albeit damage apparently already has been done. And I know I have to fix the rubber below the windshield. Will do so post haste.

But how should I engage footwell rust and corrosion that has already occured? And I dare not to look on the rest of my bulkhead, but perhaps I should check it, despite recent heavy sandering?

How to thwart it best?

Am - as usual - very grateful for your input

All the best and rust free spring journeys to you

enfield_dinosaur



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Post #518928 29th Mar 2016 5:38pm
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mikeh501



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no spray of anything will sort it unfortunately. heres what i would do....

1.) remove your floor plates entirely.
2.) get a cup brush on your drill and remove all the rust you can see. Do this from underneath as well.
3.) paint on your choice of rust converter. fertan, RC900 etc. ACF wont work. you need to convert the rust before painting.
4.) get them painted inside and out.
5.) if your floor plates are bad then do them too. i replaced with ali ones.
6.) replace the seals on the floor plates.
7.) repeat in a few years lol.

Id also give your foot wells a check on the outside from inside the wheelarches, especially on the outside bits. There *will* be more rust than you can see.
Post #518972 29th Mar 2016 6:46pm
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enfield_dinosaur



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Oh blimey Shocked

Had hoped for an easier solution. Taking a closer look, I find the upper corners of the bulkhead with bubbly paint and traces of corrosion as well.

How to decide when one needs a new bulkhead?
Post #519134 30th Mar 2016 7:37am
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K9F



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Fertan is fine and the best option. It will creep into joins and when it dries it will retain it's chemical properties whereupon if it gets damp it will reactivate. It is used prolifically in the marine industry where I work. Later on perhaps when it is dry over a prolonged period you can go over it with ACF50. Dependent on your work ethic and how bad your OCD is you could carry out the above. Up to you really but on a 9 year old vehicle with the water tightness of a colander it is not really surprising. A liberal coating of Fertan perhaps twice a year and it'll last another 9 before perhaps more thorough work is required.

Laughing If you go through life with your head in the sand....all people will see is an ar5e!!

Treat every day as if it is your last....one day you will be right!!
Post #519139 30th Mar 2016 8:05am
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enfield_dinosaur



Member Since: 14 Jun 2015
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2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SW Java Black
Work ethics: enormous! Thumbs Up
OCD: considerably - truly loving my Defender Thumbs Up

unfortunately:

Skills: While I love reading the workshop segements in LRO and LRM, picturing myself doing all kinds of work on my Defender,
I have to be honest, my skills suck. Albeit improving, I can still do only very little, as I am a documentary filmmaker by trade Big Cry

I'll start with spraying Fertan... Thumbs Up



... realizing at some point in the next few years, I'll need a proper galvanized bulkhead. Amazingly, my truck is only 8 years old!
Post #519152 30th Mar 2016 8:37am
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wyvern



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Post #519161 30th Mar 2016 9:29am
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enfield_dinosaur



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@wyvern: it's absolutely true. I try to see the positive side of it - I am learning new skills!

Now I found small corroded patches on the roof and at the alpine windows. Will stop looking at my car now in such detail. And only enter it after dark Whistle
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briggsy



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I know the feeling!!
once you start looking you cant stop.......
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