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| Caterham Member Since: 06 Nov 2008 Location: Birmingham Posts: 6318   
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I think that the biker is probably in the right?
Personally I'd approach with more care etc but that's not to say the biker is in the wrong (in my opinion). I tend to agree with you but I'm a little on the fence with this one. |
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31st Mar 2016 1:46pm |
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| Waldo Member Since: 18 Jul 2010 Location: Bit South of Manchester Posts: 240 
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Isn't there a cycle lane on the left side he could/should be using?
(Also on my bike at least twice a day to and from Uni and training) Defender 90 XS TD5 (03 Reg) |
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31st Mar 2016 2:00pm |
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| camelman Member Since: 27 Feb 2013 Location: Peak District Posts: 3387
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There is a cycle lane but there is a white van parked in it......
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31st Mar 2016 2:09pm |
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| Caterham Member Since: 06 Nov 2008 Location: Birmingham Posts: 6318
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I've had another look. Cyclist is clearly in the wrong in my humble opinion. |
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31st Mar 2016 2:18pm |
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| Chocolate Member Since: 18 May 2012 Location: Berkshire Posts: 153 
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Cyclist goes in to a right hand turn lane, across hatched road markings overtaking cars!
If it was a motor bike or car doing this they would be prosecuted. The car pulling out may have been flashed to come out by the stationary traffic. Hard to judge by one camera angle only. No one was hurt so thats the best outcome. 110XS CSW TD5. |
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31st Mar 2016 2:22pm |
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| X4SKP Member Since: 29 Nov 2013 Location: Berkshire Posts: 2298 
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Technically maybe 50 : 50 but as a cyclist who survived 15 years in London, clocking up just over 30,000 miles
my judgement here would be against the Cyclist... 
'You should not enter any hatched area bounded by a broken line unless it is safe to do so' http://www.ukmotorists.com/marking_signs.asp At relative speed in slow moving traffic at the end of a filter lane designed for turning right... this wasn't safe...you're just are lowering your life expectancy...  SKIP
https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic83242.html |
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31st Mar 2016 2:31pm |
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| davew Member Since: 02 Jan 2012 Location: North Yorkshire Posts: 888 
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The problem with too many cyclists is that they don't stick to the highway code themselves but expect everyone else to make allowances for them while they disregard the "law".
In that example the cyclist is overtaking, first using a filter lane and then on chevrons, both illegal manoeuvres that, were you to try in a car you'd get pulled over for, and then expects the motorist emerging from the left and turning right to anticipate someone riding in the wrong place, on the wrong side of the road, shielded by the cars he's overtaking, and anticipate someone being there. I spent many years commuting into cities on a motorbike and the main reason I survived when a number of my friends didn't was that I never expected other road users to avoid me or even see me. If you put yourself in a high risk situation it shouldn't be a real surprise when occasionally the risk doesn't pay off. If you are going to do something unexpected, how on earth can you expect other road users to "expect" you to do that ? Far too many cyclists (and a good number of motorcyclists, it has to be said) seem to think that it's other road users' responsibility to make allowance for them when they do stupid and/or illegal things. The advent of the "safety" camera has made things a lot worse as a small minority seem to actually go out of their way to provoke incidents so they can post it on youtube. It sometimes seems that people with cameras on their helmets/bars pull the stupidest stunts either to deliberately cause something "interesting" to happen or because they think that having a camera is like wearing a personal force field. If you ARE going to pull silly stunts to get where you are going a few seconds earlier, make sure other road users have seen you and don't bitch about it when it goes tits up because you took a gamble and it didn't pay off this time. In this case he was lucky to have a near miss. http://www.yorkshireoffroadclub.net/ |
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31st Mar 2016 2:40pm |
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| Happyoldgit Member Since: 14 Sep 2007 Location: Norfolk Posts: 3471 
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...and if you insist on being a t1t don't post it on Youtube
 Steve.
Owned numerous Land Rover vehicles of all shapes and sizes over the decades. Current Defender: A non tarts hand-bagged Puma 110 XS USW. [Insert something impressive here such as extensive list of previous Land Rovers or examples of your prestigeous and expensive items, trinkets, houses, bikes, vehicles etc] http://forums.lr4x4.com I used to be Miserable ...but now I'm ecstatic. |
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31st Mar 2016 2:56pm |
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| Caterham Member Since: 06 Nov 2008 Location: Birmingham Posts: 6318
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Amen.
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31st Mar 2016 5:54pm |
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| Dave Member Since: 30 Aug 2007 Location: Wiltshire Posts: 165 
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The tit may not not even be able to drive hence why he thinks his actions are justifiable and everyone else is wrong
 Captain Nick Medhurst would ask:
"What is the first rule when overlanding?" I would Reply: "Duratrac" |
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31st Mar 2016 6:45pm |
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| GREENI Member Since: 22 Aug 2010 Location: staffs Posts: 10383
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Being a lifelong cyclist......and working in the cycle trade, I never bother to watch these types of videos.
Some cyclists look for trouble....especially those with cameras. |
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31st Mar 2016 7:40pm |
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| LoveTheMud Member Since: 19 Feb 2015 Location: Weybridge Surrey & Pontefract West Yorkshire Posts: 411 
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Cyclist is in the wrong... overtaking more than one vehicle at a time is considered dangerous driving. Overtaking at a junction. Overtaking automatically means you take responsibility if you are doing the overtaking... also, he should be shot for having only two wheels.... i'm not biased
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31st Mar 2016 7:48pm |
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| Swac3 Member Since: 21 Feb 2015 Location: Aberdeen Posts: 363 |
Love the mud 'overtaking more than one vehicle at a time is considered dangerous driving'
Is it ? I'm not trying to be an ass, but considered dangerous driving by who ? where does it say overtaking one car at a time is the acceptable practice and otherwise its dangerous ? I do it regularly on A roads where I would deem it safe to do so regarding visibility conditions etc. The Danger as I see it when overtaking a line of cars is some A-Hat pulling out without looking/indicating/caring that someones already performing a manoeuvre, A lady I knew at work used the phrase " I pulled out to overtake WHEN IT WAS MY TURN and got hit from beind by some guy overtaking from the back of the line. 3 Landrovers |
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31st Mar 2016 9:24pm |
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| LoveTheMud Member Since: 19 Feb 2015 Location: Weybridge Surrey & Pontefract West Yorkshire Posts: 411
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Its not illegal as it turns out, but it is considered dangerous driving due to the inherent increased risk that another vehicle will pull out to overtake.
The rules stick to three principles, Is it Safe, Is it legal, Is there an advantage. Only if all three of these are true can you explore the possibility to overtake. The problem is that you should only over take one vehicle at a time, returning to the left correct position after each overtake and accessing the next. If you can asses, that as you prepare to pass each vehicle, you can see that, A, they are not indicating, B, they are not 'looking' to overtake, and C, they would gain no advantage from overtaking. Add to this that rule 169 dissallows any large or slow moving vehicle from holding up traffic, it stipulates that the slow moving traffic must pull in to let other road users pass and only continue to move away when it is safe to do so. You can see the issue here... If you can honestly say you know that: A) The vehicle at the front is not about to pull in,(169) B) That it is safe to pass each and every vehicle as you have assessed them all individually and at the time of passing C) That no other vehicle in front would gain an advantage from the overtake D) That if they are not overtaking then one of the following must apply, That it is not safe, that it is not legal, E) That they will break rule 169 and not pull in shortly as a result of them holding up other traffic If you make the overtake, you automatically take full responsibility for any accident due to its inherent risk.. If you do it in front of a police car, marked or not, they will pull you over... Also, just to add, I do it... |
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