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| shaggydog Member Since: 12 Aug 2012 Location: Kent Posts: 3347   
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Hi guys,
My 20Tdi is looking like it will be needing new pads soon, probably do the disks at the same time as they were marginal last time I did them so probably under by now. Last time I did the pads I just pushed the pots back in and there have been no ill effects- however, having known I did it last time I'm not so sure I will be able to do it again. So options are; New callipers, Vented disks and pads -Most Expensive Calliper Rebuild kit on Td5 old callipers and vented disks and pads- Next option Tdi rebuild kit, solid disks, pads -Next option Just disks and pads - Cheapest but may leak Where do people buy there rebuild kits? Is it still a job worth doing or is it easier to just do new callipers? As always, thoughts an opinions welcome  Running Restoration Thread http://www.defender2.net/forum/post323197.html#323197
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15th Mar 2016 1:46pm |
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| dorsetsmith Member Since: 30 Oct 2011 Location: South West Posts: 4554 |
having rebuilt fill set of Calipers for TD5 90 work ok many years and then front calipers started to leaking this time replaced lot with new calipers much easier to work with front calipers lockheed from local LR independent and rear calipers new from forum member cornwell Ap lockheed's as well i found blue box calipers parts hit and miss for fitment when i rebuilt calipers
and blue box parts rejected in faver of lockheed parts http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic33852.html Last edited by dorsetsmith on 15th Mar 2016 5:40pm. Edited 1 time in total |
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15th Mar 2016 2:50pm |
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| geobloke Member Since: 06 Nov 2012 Location: Nottinghamshire Posts: 4410
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Ok. Lots of choices there.
I have been down most of them at some point or other. However the best the brakes have ever felt was when I fitted new calipers, disks and pads. The braking on the 110 is immense now, fabulous in fact. Which is good as the roll cage is quite heavy... Setup; Standard calipers vented front and solid rear Grooved and drilled discs front and back Green stuff pads all round. Expensive but they do not squeal or rattle. Braided hoses Fresh fluids |
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15th Mar 2016 2:59pm |
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| Rickydodah Member Since: 14 Jul 2014 Location: East Sussex Posts: 1091 |
Personally I would rebuild the calipers as it's an easy job and a fraction of the cost of recon units. I would stick with genuine AP Lockheed seals and stainless Pistons though
I started with nothing and still have most of it left! |
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15th Mar 2016 5:31pm |
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| LRmud Member Since: 22 Oct 2014 Location: IV12 Highland Posts: 198  
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Last year I had to bleed the rear brakes. The bleed nipples were so corroded, it was not funny any more. New calipers fitted - job done! Admittedly, the rest of the calipers were not "best" condition.
I guess it depends how much time and effort you want to invest versus money. Rebuild kits would always make me think there was something I may have missed.... Solid versus Vented discs: depends how fast you travel. Solid discs on mine - work fine. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1989 Defender 90 Toyota Aygo & Honda FR-V |
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15th Mar 2016 5:46pm |
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| Merlin Member Since: 30 Oct 2010 Location: Newmarket Posts: 981
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Use stainless steel pistons from :
http://www.zeusengineering.co.uk/ I got all 12 for about £110. Merlin |
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15th Mar 2016 6:27pm |
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| jst Member Since: 14 Jan 2008 Location: Taunton Posts: 8021  
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£110 - same as 3 calipers then Cheers
James 110 2012 XS Utility 130 2011 M57 bespoke Camper 90 2010 Hardtop 90 M57 1988 Hardtop |
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15th Mar 2016 7:26pm |
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| JWL Member Since: 26 Oct 2011 Location: Hereford Posts: 3443  
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I must admit that when I had a front caliper start to leak I thought no problem, I'll get a seal kit, but to be honest by the time you price up all the bits, you can spend a little more and have a complete new caliper and no hassle of rebuilding stuff on the bench.
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15th Mar 2016 8:14pm |
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| Fatboy Slim Member Since: 04 Feb 2008 Location: Bridgend Posts: 1006 
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Same kits I use. Never have any trouble with them again once they're fitted. New calipers are all well and good but a few years down the line you're in the same boat. . |
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15th Mar 2016 8:28pm |
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| Bps Member Since: 14 Feb 2016 Location: Lancashire Posts: 825
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I'd put a new caliper straight on rather than rebuild for the time difference
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15th Mar 2016 8:34pm |
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| Bps Member Since: 14 Feb 2016 Location: Lancashire Posts: 825
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And ebc green stuff pads everytime. As per previous posts I've not had them rattle and I find they bed in very quickly
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15th Mar 2016 8:40pm |
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| Vogler Member Since: 02 Nov 2014 Location: Brussels Posts: 309  
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I have rebuilt all our Td5's calipers but one which was too corroded, and split them. Bought stainless pistons and new gallery seals (the rubber rings or tubes between the two caliper halves) on shop4autoparts.net. Although the pistons come with a full set of seals, I followed general concensus and ordered genuine Land Rover ones. I used one of the others after I messed up one of the metal retaining rings and it did fit well too, but I filed a small camfer on them first.
The bolts holding the calipers together are not metric but 5/8, and I did find somewhere that they should be torqued up at approximately 70Nm (I believe it was on the lr4x4 forum). Also, I found it absolutely necessary to have compressed air at hand and bought a small compressor. You might want to include that into your budget. Make sure you have some scotchbrite pads to polish away light corrosion in the piston seal recess. This corrosion was too coarse in the caliper that I replaced. All in all it takes some time when you're doing all the brakes. I put on new brembo discs and pads, which perform great from the very beginning. Not the cheapest though... Mind that some brakes need breaking in, so be cautious the first miles. A friend of mine overshot a crossing when his newly fitted brakes on the daily driver did almost nothing in the beginning. When you remove the hub/brake disc assembly, some dirt is likely to fall into the inner bearings, but this time I didn't mind since I also intended to replace the wheel bearings and hub seals. Hope this helps, Joris |
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16th Mar 2016 12:26am |
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| MadTom Member Since: 10 Sep 2013 Location: Olomouc Posts: 617  
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Can you please add more info about using the Discovery servo? Breaks on my 130 are much worse then on Discovery2, so some complete check is on the list. "Drobek" = The Small One - Discovery 2, "BlufÃnek" = The Blue Thing - Defender 130, and for me at least Ford Mondeo  |
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16th Mar 2016 9:26am |
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| shaggydog Member Since: 12 Aug 2012 Location: Kent Posts: 3347
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Thanks for all the replies guys
Looking at the costs of the rebuild kits it may be better to go for calipers as you just fit and go and will have some form of warranty on the parts rather than the kits which, could just leak. I might stretch to vented but the solid disks have never let me down so will see what insurance says. Does anyone have any recommendations for where to get them from? 200Tdi front axle brake caliper solid. Any recommendations for standard disks? Brake pads I used Ferrodo last time and will do again (supplied by Accro land Sallanches - good enough for mountains good enough for me!) Running Restoration Thread http://www.defender2.net/forum/post323197.html#323197 Self confessed mileage hunter |
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16th Mar 2016 1:19pm |
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