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Shiltmeister



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Spain 2009 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SW Alaska White
Posh Diesel
Well to celebrate 1 year of ownership I decided to give her a tank full of the posh diesel as a treat (plus I've got a fuel card to use up before changing jobs).

I know there are a lot of doubters out there over the actual benefits related to extra cost and I was probably one of them, but it is definitely running much smoother with less engine rattle than usual. So I think once in a while when I'm feeling less poor I will give her a drop to keep her sweet.

Anyone agree? If money was no object would it be better to run permanently on this? 2009 Puma 110 SW
Post #513267 11th Mar 2016 5:25pm
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gilarion



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So how much is a litre of the good stuff in Mallorca? For those who like Welsh Mountains and narrow boats have a look at my videos and photos at..

http://www.youtube.com/user/conwy1
Post #513278 11th Mar 2016 5:48pm
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Shiltmeister



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Spain 2009 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SW Alaska White
Just over a Euro at the moment. Make hay as they say.... 2009 Puma 110 SW
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gilarion



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That is about 77p sterling, we are paying about £111.9 a litre for Super or Premium diesel. For those who like Welsh Mountains and narrow boats have a look at my videos and photos at..

http://www.youtube.com/user/conwy1
Post #513285 11th Mar 2016 6:06pm
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Shiltmeister



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Spain 2009 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SW Alaska White
Yeah but its all relative though. Average wage is a lot lower in Spain. But being on an island prices are considerably higher compared to the mainland. Especially vehicles. I bought my 110 on the mainland and I reckon I could have sold it for 1500-2000€ more the next day on Mallorca. 2009 Puma 110 SW
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Disco_Mikey



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I always thought posh fuel was a lot of Censored , but looking back through my fuel records, it consistently recorded an improvement of 3mpg on each tank...
Post #513326 11th Mar 2016 7:04pm
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custom90



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Using a fuel additive has the same affect, if not better.
Post #513328 11th Mar 2016 7:07pm
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mick



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Shiltmeister wrote:
Yeah but its all relative though. Average wage is a lot lower in Spain. But being on an island prices are considerably higher compared to the mainland. Especially vehicles. I bought my 110 on the mainland and I reckon I could have sold it for 1500-2000€ more the next day on Mallorca.

I run mine on BP ultimate all the time for the few pence more it costs Thumbs Up
Where abouts in Mallorca are you ?
Post #513351 11th Mar 2016 8:26pm
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Ryderoo



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^^^same here, always fill my Defender with supreme/premium diesel.

Second vehicle and low mileage though, so not really bothered on cost. Cheers Simon

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bpman



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I use Shell V power Thumbs Up
Post #513411 11th Mar 2016 11:11pm
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ericvv



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Re: Posh Diesel
Shiltmeister wrote:
Well to celebrate 1 year of ownership I decided to give her a tank full of the posh diesel as a treat If money was no object would it be better to run permanently on this?


Discussed to death. Rolling Eyes You have as many yea sayers as nay sayers. Never will reach consensus on such hot topic. Laughing
http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic11415....ate+diesel
http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic18718....ate+diesel
http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic24551....ate+diesel
http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic32969....ate+diesel
http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic34105....ate+diesel
http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic9387.h...ate+diesel

As to myself,... here is a quote out of one of above threads going back to May 2012
ericvv wrote:
Well, a month ago for the first time in history I tanked up with BP Ultimate Shocked as opposed to the usual cheaper supermarket diesel from the nearest French supermarket Mr. Green . I have always been a disbeliever of the value of these premium fuels, but one thing is for sure, I virtually immediately noticed a distinct quieter engine. So there is something to it after all. So I will continue using it even if it is only available to me here in Switzerland and not accross the French border where diesel is almost 20% cheaper than here. Just had another Ultimate refill today. Even if the price to pay makes me Big Cry it may be worth to do so in the long run.


From a doubter, I became a firm yea sayer. Won't even bother comparing mpg and so, but since April 2012 I switched 100% to BP Ultimate with no intention to ever go back. My EGR seems to appreciate it, my injectors recently had for the first time a cleaning additive given by my dealer of which the result was just no difference, so I think this particular premium fuel has all the additives permanently added to keep typical diesel knock down, and keep fuel tank, fuel lines, injectors in optimal condition.
Bit off topic, but an additional advantage of all Swiss diesel is that it is B0, so zero bio diesel content.
If you want to hear from another source how my engine is running/sounding, one of the posters here above could give you a very up to date answer, like less than 24 hours ago. Whistle
So nothing else for me than the one at the left side in below picture. Thumbs Up
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Butchers Boy



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I've just returned home from Cornwall after a week away
Esso Derv (who don't do posh) £1.069 ltr Didn't know they don't do posh until I'd pulled in and driven around the forecourt several times Laughing Laughing Three quarters of a tank came to £64 (Range Rover Sport)
V-Power Derv (M4 services) £1.249 ltr Half a tank came to £57 (Range Rover Sport)
I can feel the difference between the two. IMHO the car feels sluggish with the regular fuel!
Friend of mine owned a Petrol station he said never use the super market stuff its not refined as well as the petrol station fuel. 2010 Defender 90 HT

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Post #513539 12th Mar 2016 2:17pm
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Shiltmeister



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mick wrote:
Shiltmeister wrote:
Yeah but its all relative though. Average wage is a lot lower in Spain. But being on an island prices are considerably higher compared to the mainland. Especially vehicles. I bought my 110 on the mainland and I reckon I could have sold it for 1500-2000€ more the next day on Mallorca.

I run mine on BP ultimate all the time for the few pence more it costs Thumbs Up
Where abouts in Mallorca are you ?


I'm in the south of Mallorca near Palma. I'll see how things go and maybe I'll rotate between standard and premium fuel. 2009 Puma 110 SW
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Shiltmeister



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Spain 2009 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SW Alaska White
Butchers Boy wrote:
I've just returned home from Cornwall after a week away
Esso Derv (who don't do posh) £1.069 ltr Didn't know they don't do posh until I'd pulled in and driven around the forecourt several times Laughing Laughing Three quarters of a tank came to £64 (Range Rover Sport)
V-Power Derv (M4 services) £1.249 ltr Half a tank came to £57 (Range Rover Sport)
I can feel the difference between the two. IMHO the car feels sluggish with the regular fuel!
Friend of mine owned a Petrol station he said never use the super market stuff its not refined as well as the petrol station fuel.


I'm not sure about the whole Supermarket fuel theory. It all comes from the same refineries but just gets loaded into different tanker trucks. I maybe wrong though. 2009 Puma 110 SW
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apt100



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Butchers Boy wrote:
I've just returned home from Cornwall after a week away
Esso Derv (who don't do posh) £1.069 ltr Didn't know they don't do posh until I'd pulled in and driven around the forecourt several times Laughing Laughing .


Esso do a "Supreme+", but at my nearest they don't have it at all of the pumps.

It's what I usually fill up with. Around me it is difficult to find any station that isn't a supermarket.
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