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| Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018   
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"I hope he learns the error of his ways before he kills somebody"
This. I think the bloke has actually got off relatively lightly, seems to have a bit of an attitude from the comments reported in the press. Someone needed to recalibrate his blokes decision making matrix. It was a public road and his behaviour was socially unacceptable mse - Godwin's law so early? Exactly how many people need to complain before the police take action? |
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9th Mar 2016 9:42am |
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| Happyoldgit Member Since: 14 Sep 2007 Location: Norfolk Posts: 3471 
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Incidents like these happen at numerous locations on a daily basis and have done for years. Some people are idiots, some make mistakes. As I said before it is nothing new. What is new is seemingly being unable to f@rt outside without the event being captured by a camera somewhere. Steve.
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9th Mar 2016 1:08pm |
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| lambert.the.farmer Member Since: 11 Apr 2012 Location: harrogate Posts: 2006  
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Some of the driver choices exhibited in these parts honestly make the blood run cold. I can only assume that these are the actions of people with a death wish except that you can guarantee that it will be others whom pay the price. It brings us back to cars needing a big sharp spike in the middle of the steering wheel not an air bag, something to focus the mind. Rhubarb and custard let fly with their secret weapon.
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9th Mar 2016 7:34pm |
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| mse Member Since: 06 Apr 2008 Location: UK Posts: 5034 
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First, the people who were impacted didnt complain...maybe except the peopl e put out of joint by being overtaken
Second, the capturing of the "crime" by someone who knows and can judge things is better than a video which isnt the whole truth Third, one indiscretion, lapse issue is not a reason to taint someone forever in this context ESPECIALLY as no one was injured etc Mike |
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10th Mar 2016 12:14am |
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| Paulv8 Member Since: 09 Jun 2013 Location: Milton Keynes Posts: 618 
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The motorcyclist wouldnt have known there was any evidence and so a complaint would just have been a waste of time. that doesn't mean they weren't scared to bloody death by this idiot. I for one am certainly glad camera technology holds up genuine dangerous drivers for prosecution. Lapses of judgement that cause minor inconvenience are one thing, aggressive driving and endangering life are another. V8 90...WIP
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10th Mar 2016 7:57am |
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| JJ Member Since: 18 May 2009 Location: Winchester Posts: 932 
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The capture of video footage of a "mistake" and the subsequent reporting to the police is only a small part of the picture. We then have a pretty good legal system that will decide whether to prosecute or not and an independent judiciary that will decide guilt or innocence and a penalty if guilty.
I wonder how many videos the police receive that go no where ? Sometime the attitude of an individual in an interview will make up the mind of the police whether to pursue it or not. I recently had an issue on a school crossing where a driver squeezed past the brightly coloured lollipop man so as not to be held up ( BMW by the way ) , it was reported to the police and the lady was interviewed and after a remorseful apology no further action was required. I am sure if she displayed arrogance or attitude it would of been different. HR064 Hampshire and Berkshire 4x4 Response |
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10th Mar 2016 8:15am |
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| RoddyK05 Member Since: 08 Apr 2015 Location: Inverclyde Posts: 633  
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I can't see why anyone thinks this guy shouldn't be prosecuted for driving as dangerously as he does here. A lapse of concentration, clean licence - more likely he's just never been caught at these antics before. Put it this way, if the car he had overtaken had been a marked police camera car, would he have had the same lapse of concentration? Would he have passed his driving test driving like that? Not saying that any of us drive by the book 100% of the time, but I certainly don't drive recklessly and dangerously like this, if I did I'd be booking some lessons with a driving instructor. I think in car camera technology is excellent, and anyone witnessing this sort of thing should inform the police and hand over the evidence - we all moan that there is never a policeman when you want one, well in this case the CPS or whoever didn't need a policeman on the scene - the evidence was there to see. He's going to be spending a few bob to get back on the road in a years time anyway, hopefully he will indeed have learned his lesson and maybe next time he will be the one that witnesses something and helps get another lunatic driver off the road.
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10th Mar 2016 8:22am |
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| Grenadier Member Since: 23 Jul 2014 Location: The foot of Mont Blanc... Posts: 5804  
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Disagree entirely MSE. Look at it another way. 40-50 years ago or more, there was less anti-social behaviour, less give-a-f*** mentality, less road rage, less unadulterated violence etc, that now pervades the UK and more respect for each other, the law, our fellow citizens. Now there are a***holes everywhere who feel it is their right to do what they want, when they want, how they want and without fear of consequence. 40-50 years ago, we (the general public) would have stood up, as one, against this selfish behaviour. But slowly over the last generation or two, we have tended to look the other way. A man cloutting his wife, I'll pretend it didn't happen. A guy mugging a granny, I'll look away. Man being punched and kicked by a gang of youths, not my problem. Why? Because of the fear of that individual of not being supported by others in the street if he/she does step in and the subsequent risk of violent retaliation. This 'fabric' of common good and supporting people instinctively in such situations has all but gone. We always hear of exceptions, but they are exactly that, exceptions. People joining together to stop the guy punching his wife should be the automatic reaction, not the exception. So this reporting of the driver is absolutely right. He's a c***. What he did is inexcusable. So had he not been reported and fined, he would carry on doing the same with impunity. This time may have been fine, but what if next time he misjudged and did kill one of the motorcyclists? At what point do we say enough is enough. I am fed up with the minority of a***holes in the UK, who care about no one but themselves, effecting the 95% who are law abiding people who want to live and enjoy life together. This isn't some hippy point of view, it's from the point of view who's been at the receiving end of this sh*t. I will never turn a blind eye, because the 40 years or so we have been doing so (as a nation) is the reason we are where we are today. Law abiding members of the public shouldn't be afraid of being mugged for their phone, or punched for standing up to someone, the aggressors should be afraid that the public and police will stand up to them. Sadly that's not the case. In my opinion, that's the real 'society' in the UK and for my part is the single biggest reason I will never return to live in the UK. And for what it's worth, had I been one of those bikers, I might have thought 'f***ing prick' and carried on with my mates. But had I been solo, I would have turned my bike and stopped him. Let any of this bullsh*t just slide past or sweep it under the table and it will only get worse next time. From littering, to low level drunkeness to violence on those who cannot defend themselves. Monsieur Le Grenadier I've not been everywhere, but it's on my list..... 2011 Puma 110DC - Corris Grey |
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10th Mar 2016 8:41am |
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| Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018
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For those that think they would have turned around and chased the driver - a cautionary tale:
"A 64-YEAR-OLD man chased another driver in his car for more than 20 miles in a road rage incident, a court heard. Peter Lamerton told off the other man for speaking on his mobile phone while at the wheel of a Land Rover. The two cars collided and Lamerton then pursued the driver in his Citroen C5 along the A386 and A38, Plymouth Crown Court heard. He called the police to report a hit-and-run crash on his own hands-free device. But Lamerton drove too close to the car in front and they collided again, the court heard. Lamerton, of First Avenue, Stoke, was due to face trial on a charge of dangerous driving. But he admitted a lesser charge of driving without due care and attention on May 28 last year. Piers Norsworthy, for the Crown Prosecution Service, said that Lamerton saw the other man on his mobile phone near Derriford Hospital. He added that he pulled up alongside him in his Citroen and called through an open window to get off his phone. Mr Norsworthy said the two cars were then involved in a minor crash which dislodged one of the Citroen’s lights. He added that Lamerton blamed the other man – who had not been due to give evidence at the trial. Mr Norsworthy said the Land Rover drove away and Lamerton “pursued him” for 21 miles. The court heard Lamerton himself called the police and reported a “hit and run” accident. Mr Norsworthy said he followed the Land Rover down Tavistock Road and on to the A38, all the way to Lee Mill. He added that the two vehicles were involved in another collision. Emily Cook, for Lamerton, said he accepted that “in the heat of the moment” he had driven too close to the Land Rover on the A38. But she said the other driver was also partly to blame for that accident by swerving. Miss Cook added that he had been emotional after visiting his poorly wife in hospital. She said he had been driving since his late teens and had no previous convictions. Recorder Julia Clayton fined him £200, ordered him to pay £200 costs and £20 victim surcharge. He must pay £20 victim surcharge. Lamerton was handed four penalty points on his driving licence." Read more: http://www.plymouthherald.co.uk/Plymouth-r...z42UaOao00 Follow us: @heraldnewslive on Twitter | theplymouthherald on Facebook |
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10th Mar 2016 9:54am |
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| mse Member Since: 06 Apr 2008 Location: UK Posts: 5034
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Im actually not sure you do you know Mike |
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10th Mar 2016 9:15pm |
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