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| stooby do Member Since: 14 Mar 2015 Location: St. Helens Posts: 69  
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I am adding some rear speakers to my 2004 110 CSW. Does anyone know if the wiring is in place for rear speakers as standard or will I have to wire them into the stereo socket? If I have to wire them in, does anyone know which pins? Stereo is standard LR. Cheers, Stooby.
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24th Nov 2015 10:17am |
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| landybear Member Since: 18 Oct 2015 Location: Tamworth & Worcester Posts: 134 
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Did you ever find out where the wiring was? I've just put the pods and speakers in the rear of mine and then discovered that only the front wiring is present at the radio so need to do a bit of research to find the missing twisted pairs that run to the back. 2003 Defender TD5 Hardtop (current - work in progress)
2014 Discovery 4 HSE (Current) / 2009 Discovery 3 HSE 2009 (Previous) Disco 2 Landmark 2004, 2001, 2002 (Previous) Disco 1 300tdi 1996 & V8i 1995, 200tdi 1993 (previous) Defender 110 300tdi 1993 (Previous) Range Rover Vogue 4.6 - 2001 (Previous) Freelanders TD4 (2001 3 door & 2002 5 door) Previous 90 2.5 then converted to V8i (1990), 90 2.25 then converted to v8 (1986) plus others |
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1st Mar 2016 8:24pm |
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| mk1collector Member Since: 17 Sep 2009 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 6769  
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The wiring was there in mine but mine is a csw Ray
My build thread http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic17615.html |
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1st Mar 2016 8:31pm |
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| landybear Member Since: 18 Oct 2015 Location: Tamworth & Worcester Posts: 134
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I'm starting from a basic hard top and looking at the diagrams it seems like the rear speakers (referenced for South Africa) are missing at plug C1315(wiring sheet) or C0438(connector details). Looks like I've got to find out where plug C0393 is!!
 Click image to enlarge Click image to enlarge 2003 Defender TD5 Hardtop (current - work in progress) 2014 Discovery 4 HSE (Current) / 2009 Discovery 3 HSE 2009 (Previous) Disco 2 Landmark 2004, 2001, 2002 (Previous) Disco 1 300tdi 1996 & V8i 1995, 200tdi 1993 (previous) Defender 110 300tdi 1993 (Previous) Range Rover Vogue 4.6 - 2001 (Previous) Freelanders TD4 (2001 3 door & 2002 5 door) Previous 90 2.5 then converted to V8i (1990), 90 2.25 then converted to v8 (1986) plus others |
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1st Mar 2016 8:46pm |
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| landybear Member Since: 18 Oct 2015 Location: Tamworth & Worcester Posts: 134
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Just found the following thread about where the wiring goes...
http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic6285.html 2003 Defender TD5 Hardtop (current - work in progress) 2014 Discovery 4 HSE (Current) / 2009 Discovery 3 HSE 2009 (Previous) Disco 2 Landmark 2004, 2001, 2002 (Previous) Disco 1 300tdi 1996 & V8i 1995, 200tdi 1993 (previous) Defender 110 300tdi 1993 (Previous) Range Rover Vogue 4.6 - 2001 (Previous) Freelanders TD4 (2001 3 door & 2002 5 door) Previous 90 2.5 then converted to V8i (1990), 90 2.25 then converted to v8 (1986) plus others |
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1st Mar 2016 9:02pm |
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| Cupboard Member Since: 21 Mar 2014 Location: Suffolk Posts: 2971 
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Odd that you don't have the wires in place, my poverty spec 110 hardtop does but then it is a little newer.
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2nd Mar 2016 12:45pm |
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| landybear Member Since: 18 Oct 2015 Location: Tamworth & Worcester Posts: 134
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I suspect that with the introduction of the Puma, that the wiring became a standard fitment so LR didn't need to source multiple different wiring looms to suite different specs. 2003 Defender TD5 Hardtop (current - work in progress)
2014 Discovery 4 HSE (Current) / 2009 Discovery 3 HSE 2009 (Previous) Disco 2 Landmark 2004, 2001, 2002 (Previous) Disco 1 300tdi 1996 & V8i 1995, 200tdi 1993 (previous) Defender 110 300tdi 1993 (Previous) Range Rover Vogue 4.6 - 2001 (Previous) Freelanders TD4 (2001 3 door & 2002 5 door) Previous 90 2.5 then converted to V8i (1990), 90 2.25 then converted to v8 (1986) plus others |
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2nd Mar 2016 12:57pm |
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| landybear Member Since: 18 Oct 2015 Location: Tamworth & Worcester Posts: 134
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Well I've located the plug in the engine bay and nows the question if I should try to get the right female connector? (any links anyone?) or replace with a different one?
Click image to enlarge Click image to enlarge Click image to enlarge 2003 Defender TD5 Hardtop (current - work in progress) 2014 Discovery 4 HSE (Current) / 2009 Discovery 3 HSE 2009 (Previous) Disco 2 Landmark 2004, 2001, 2002 (Previous) Disco 1 300tdi 1996 & V8i 1995, 200tdi 1993 (previous) Defender 110 300tdi 1993 (Previous) Range Rover Vogue 4.6 - 2001 (Previous) Freelanders TD4 (2001 3 door & 2002 5 door) Previous 90 2.5 then converted to V8i (1990), 90 2.25 then converted to v8 (1986) plus others |
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2nd Mar 2016 7:46pm |
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| PaulMc Member Since: 17 Jan 2009 Location: Kent Posts: 501 
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That connector is a Sumitomo HW sealed series 4-way male connector.
I posted details of these connectors and where to get them in the post that you've linked-to above. I now have a small stock of these connectors - but, they're not cheap 
If you weren't too bothered about keeping the connectors 'factory', you could change them for Econoseal connectors, which would be slightly cheaper - http://www.polevolt.co.uk/acatalog/info_ESC4M.html
http://www.polevolt.co.uk/acatalog/info_ESC4F.html
Econoseal connectors were used for the main harness to chassis harness connections on 300Tdi Defenders. . Paul. 1989 Arles Blue 2.5TD 110 Hardtop 1999 Epsom Green Discovery II 4.0 V8i 'XS' |
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4th Mar 2016 1:05pm |
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| landybear Member Since: 18 Oct 2015 Location: Tamworth & Worcester Posts: 134
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 Thanks for the original link as I've now ordered some along with a few other goodies that will be used along the way. Had to be very careful as at one point p&p was over $1000  which would have been slightly over budget . 2003 Defender TD5 Hardtop (current - work in progress)
2014 Discovery 4 HSE (Current) / 2009 Discovery 3 HSE 2009 (Previous) Disco 2 Landmark 2004, 2001, 2002 (Previous) Disco 1 300tdi 1996 & V8i 1995, 200tdi 1993 (previous) Defender 110 300tdi 1993 (Previous) Range Rover Vogue 4.6 - 2001 (Previous) Freelanders TD4 (2001 3 door & 2002 5 door) Previous 90 2.5 then converted to V8i (1990), 90 2.25 then converted to v8 (1986) plus others |
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4th Mar 2016 1:27pm |
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| the_lincs_landies Member Since: 29 May 2023 Location: Boston, Lincs Posts: 230
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I have just stumbled across this same issue with my 110. Had to replace Dash and replacement had working speakers - thought I'd use them in the back, having seen the connectors when I was fitting my reverse cam no. plate light, and no joy. So, I am guessing this is a case of - find the connector and then create a plug and pass those wires into the original LR ISO plug? (Any ideas which pins, not in SA) - location to look out for it in the engine bay would be much happreciated too 
Edit:- If anyone else lands on this post and isn’t sure where in the engine bay it is, it’s clipped to a bracket on the (I think) power steering, under the coolant filler bottle, |
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24th Aug 2023 1:01pm |
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| the_lincs_landies Member Since: 29 May 2023 Location: Boston, Lincs Posts: 230
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Extension to last post: I have been trawling through my wires and also through LR workshop and this was the outcome:-
Black with Green Trace to Pin 1 on YPC10191 (Brown ISO Plug) Black with Blue Trace to Pin 2 on YPC10191 (Brown ISO Plug) Black with Yellow Trace to Pin 7 on YPC10191 (Brown ISO Plug) Black with Orange Trace to Pin 8 on YPC10191 (Brown ISO Plug) Source: https://www.lrworkshop.com/connectors/defender-2007/C0092 |
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24th Aug 2023 7:36pm |
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