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| JWL Member Since: 26 Oct 2011 Location: Hereford Posts: 3443   
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Don't forget John that the prop is built to accommodate movement of the axle hence the UJ's
Ibexman, I think they are and I'm sure they can only fit the one way. It was more the thought that both arms have been bolted wth the short arm to the ball joint to the side, that's the only thing I can think of that would cause the axle to shift over and stay there. |
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26th Feb 2016 8:51am |
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| ibexman Member Since: 13 Dec 2008 Location: Essex Posts: 2954 
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Well heres an a frame both arms look same
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26th Feb 2016 8:56am |
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| ibexman Member Since: 13 Dec 2008 Location: Essex Posts: 2954
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Maybe a bracket on a frame crossmember has come adrift. He needs to get under there and take a good look , I shouldn't imagine it drives very well probably crabbing very badly like the classic minis from the factory |
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26th Feb 2016 9:02am |
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| excossack Member Since: 22 Feb 2012 Location: North West Posts: 5873 
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If that axle is that far across, its gone past UJs accommodating movement. I think we need some more pics from of the vehicle showing a square on shot of the rear end and maybe a shot of the underneath looking towards the front 1999 Defender TD5 110 Regards John M0VAZ Econet Station 48 no clock |
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26th Feb 2016 9:16am |
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| Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018 
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Have you checked the wheels?
Are they aftermarket? What offset are they? Rule the simple things out first before moving onto crash damage, etc.. |
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26th Feb 2016 9:59am |
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| landybear Member Since: 18 Oct 2015 Location: Tamworth & Worcester Posts: 134 
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Looking at the pictures there has to be something adrift on either the axle itself or the a-frame / mounting. Its a long shot but has the axle or A frame mounts suffered from corrosion and been replaced but welded in at the wrong place?
Good luck, it will be interesting to find out what the answer is! 2003 Defender TD5 Hardtop (current - work in progress) 2014 Discovery 4 HSE (Current) / 2009 Discovery 3 HSE 2009 (Previous) Disco 2 Landmark 2004, 2001, 2002 (Previous) Disco 1 300tdi 1996 & V8i 1995, 200tdi 1993 (previous) Defender 110 300tdi 1993 (Previous) Range Rover Vogue 4.6 - 2001 (Previous) Freelanders TD4 (2001 3 door & 2002 5 door) Previous 90 2.5 then converted to V8i (1990), 90 2.25 then converted to v8 (1986) plus others |
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26th Feb 2016 1:45pm |
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| Green Machine Member Since: 19 Nov 2010 Location: North Yorkshire Posts: 1226 
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Looking at the photos, doesn't it look as though the axle is too narrow? With such a small gap to the spring mount on one side, you would expect a pretty big gap between the spring mount and the tyre on the other side? But from the photos it looks as though neither gap is very big, which would suggest that the axle is too narrow.
ajps72 are you able to provide a photograph of the axle itself (particularly the diff casing)? 2005 Td5 | 90 Station Wagon | Tonga Green Last edited by Green Machine on 26th Feb 2016 4:11pm. Edited 1 time in total |
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26th Feb 2016 1:57pm |
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| jabber Member Since: 10 Jun 2009 Location: Colorado Posts: 17  
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Is it possible one of the trailing arms is bent?
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26th Feb 2016 4:05pm |
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| Green Machine Member Since: 19 Nov 2010 Location: North Yorkshire Posts: 1226
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It's possible, but it wouldn't make such a big difference to the gap between the tyre and the spring mount as is shown in the photos. If one of the trailing arms was bent the wheel hub would be closer to the trailing arm mount on the chassis on that side (i.e. further forward), so the axle would be out of true, but the lateral position of the axle wouldn't be much different as that is being controlled by the A-frame. You would also have VERY weird handling as the back axle would be constantly steering in one direction. It is an unusual one! In order for the lateral position of the axle to be that far out, there has to be an issue with the A-Frame, or the axle is non-standard. 2005 Td5 | 90 Station Wagon | Tonga Green
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26th Feb 2016 4:15pm |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17538 
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The photos suggest that the O/S spring is kicked out at the bottom whilst the N/S spring is not (unless it is a trick of the perspective). If so it indicates that the axle is not central on the vehicle.
I would have thought that careful inspection would reveal fairly quickly why this is. Since the axle is located transversely by the A-frame, this is where I'd start looking. It does look to me as though the wheel and tyre combination is not ideal, since the tyres seem quite wide and the wheels appear to have almost too much positive offset for the width of tyre. I suspect that there's never going to be much clearance between the tyre and the upper spring mount, but it should be the same on either side. I don't think this is just down to build tolerances! |
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26th Feb 2016 4:26pm |
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| rustandoil Member Since: 08 Sep 2012 Location: Cotswolds Posts: 769 
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Looking at the pictures I would say there is more than one problem here
We need more pictures from different angles perhaps with the wheels off |
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26th Feb 2016 4:26pm |
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| jabber Member Since: 10 Jun 2009 Location: Colorado Posts: 17
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makes sense... particularly since it was mentioned the a-frame was recently worked on.
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26th Feb 2016 4:31pm |
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| ajps72 Member Since: 08 Jan 2012 Location: Lima Peru Posts: 105 
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Hello all, thanks for the concern, the springs are definetely sideways, but not as bad as the pictures show, I think that the problem should be coming from the bushings of the A frame arms.
I have put some more pictures this time with a camera not a phone Right side Click image to enlarge Left side Click image to enlarge A joint Click image to enlarge Sorry for all the dirt that is the problem around here, I power washed it a week ago. Augusto Defender 110 TD5 2001 Discovery 4 TDV6 |
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26th Feb 2016 10:07pm |
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| mk1collector Member Since: 17 Sep 2009 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 6772 
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What wheels do you have? Ray
My build thread http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic17615.html |
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27th Feb 2016 12:25am |
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