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Mash

Member Since: 09 Feb 2015
Location: Guernsey
Posts: 1674

I have some R.I dually d2's and a 10" bar on my disco 3, they are amazing

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Click image to enlarge 90 wolf - Jasmin http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic39408.html
90 V8 - Maggie http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic42564.html
110 TD5 - Buggsy http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic59029.html
52HG25 lightweight https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic72342.html
D3 Hse - Fiona
Capri 2l S - Anna

Think I might have a problem............

7th Feb 2016 12:22pm

ericvv

Member Since: 02 Jun 2011
Location: Near the Jet d'Eau
Posts: 5816

2009 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SVX Station Wagon Santorini Black

Supacat wrote:
ericvv wrote:

Yeah, right, copied selective quotes from the above item's description.

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Must be good, so go for it.

If that's your main criteria, I'm surprised you get anything from Entreq - some of the english translations can be a little off also.

Think you did not understand, or rather did not want to understand, what I tried to say when printing those Chin@m@n ebay advertisement quotes. Doesn't matter, as long as Entreq are advertising in good old German it is all fine with me.
My Entreq plans for 2016 are taking shape, and with me that applies to others too who strange as it may sound to you and to many on def2.net, do have a excellent relationship and easy communication with Olaf. About time to start thinking about plans for leaving the Legend for a week or so in the care of Uhldingen-Mühlhofen workshop.

You never actually own a Defender. You merely look after it for the next generation.
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7th Feb 2016 1:08pm

Spectre

Member Since: 26 Jan 2016
Location: South East
Posts: 228

redline wrote:
Where are you mounting them? I'm assuming you're after round lights?

I find the Speaker TS3001R very, very good. They are 6"diameter so aesthetically OK for roof-mounting. I personally think that anything larger on the roof ends up looking like Mickey Mouse ears...

The 4000's are awesome, and at 7" they look great on the the front of the Defender...

If useful, I can post a picture of 4x TS3001's mounted on roof rack.

Will be mounting to either the roof rack or fit a separate bar
e.g: http://www.paddockspares.com/pm765-defende...luded.html

Please do post some photos!

Thanks.

7th Feb 2016 1:33pm

leeds

Member Since: 28 Dec 2009
Location: West Yorkshire
Posts: 8582

Branded or unbranded?

Identical looking = the same?

Certification?

Specifications and translations?

The big difficulty is that there are lots of manufacturers for LED products, some very reputable brands well known in Europe, some lesser know know brand names and then the unknown unbranded names.

I think it was the Firefly LED torch I looked at and the brand/manufacturer is a Japanese company. However there was about 200 different companies in mainland China who made Firefly torches. Were they all making them to the same specification and quality?

In Europe there are many reputable, well know brands, Noldens, JW Speaker, Truck Lite, Rigid Industries, Lazer Lamp, Vision X etc.

However you have to be careful, for instance there is someone selling Truck Lights on eBay which are cheap and a dead ring for the American made Truck Lite. The Chinese Truck Light lookalike of the Truck Lite is available for less then 40USD a pair!
Good profit margins there trading off a reputable brand name with a look alike headlight. The same quality??

I very much doubt that they are of the same quality.

Certification? In Europe your lights have to be E marked. If a lens has both DOT and E marks on them I would strongly suggest that they are not road legal in Europe. My argument for that is that the light pattern for DOT approval is different to that for E mark. Also DOT is an American, mainly North American specification which are LHD so I find it hard to believe that DOT approve will be compatible with RHD E mark lights

For a LED headlight there are 3 parts of the E mark The letter E , a single or double digit number showing which country had approved it. Then a 4 or 6 digit number which is the actual approval number.

Yes the 100 lumens figure per watt is achievable these days, however is that raw lumens, effective lumens or actually measured lumens. Vision X 25 watt canon (1st single 25 watt led spot light) has raw lumens of 2500 or 100 lumens/watt

However the Vision X 50 watt light only has 3200 raw lumens or 64 lumens/watt

Must admit when I see unbranded lights claiming very large lumens/watt, alarm bells start ringing in my head.

Specification/translations can be 'amusing' to put it mildly! However what is not so amusing when UK suppliers just copy and paste the translation without engaging their brains!

Brendan

7th Feb 2016 1:59pm

Supacat

Member Since: 16 Oct 2012
Location: West Yorkshire
Posts: 11018

2013 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS DCPU Keswick Green

ericvv wrote:
Think you did not understand, or rather did not want to understand, what I tried to say when printing those Chin@m@n ebay advertisement quotes.

I think I was being generous, another reading, which your post above does not help discount, might be xenophobic verging on racist. If so that's a very poor reflection on you.

7th Feb 2016 3:13pm

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