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jst



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 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Stornoway Grey
willy eckerslike wrote:
Really won't make much difference changing tyres from at2 to mtr, buy some chains instead, they will stave off gravity slightly longer. I live in the North York Moors and believe me gravity always wins


i concure with the above

but if the issue was the stops starts, i dont mean to be pedantic but try some clutch control lessons or proper off road training. Or as you said stop it on the key. Cheers

James
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DefenderOfTheEarth



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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Tonga Green
Hmmm - some rate TRs over AT2s. They look more aggressive IMO. Defender 110XS SW gone... now VW California 180 4 Motion.
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AndrewS



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Chains 130's have feeling's as well you know Smile
Post #49292 21st Dec 2010 9:22pm
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discoch1



Member Since: 06 Dec 2009
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Switzerland 2002 Defender 110 Td5 CSW Zermatt Silver
Hi All!
Here in Switzerland I've been gettīng a type of crushed stone for our road out side our house. (Sheet ice after 2230)
It's like those hydroculture stones but crushed. Carry about 40kg in the back in a big plastic box and spread this
on the road.

With the weight, the chippings and good winter tyres (Cooper Discovery Snow groove) I'm the only one who gets through. I have even pulled the postie up to the top of the hill a few time and he's got spikes!

Sorry mines not a Puma but it soon will be!
Post #49296 21st Dec 2010 9:34pm
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caribcat



Member Since: 11 Jun 2009
Location: Anglesey
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2013 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 USW Aintree Green
OK, so chains are the way to go. Next question.... where to get and how much? I expect them to be massively overpriced and in short supply right now.
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BIGFOG



Member Since: 12 Sep 2010
Location: Edenbridge
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United Kingdom 2009 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Stornoway Grey
I half jokingly asked the price of a pair of chains at my local Landrover main dealer the other week, they were in stock - if you had a spare SIX HUNDRED AND EIGHTY QUID !!!
Post #49958 28th Dec 2010 10:20am
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Setok



Member Since: 16 Jan 2009
Location: Helsinki
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Finland 
Here in Finland nobody seems to run their Landies on the Grabbers. M+S or not, they're not winter tyres. Oh, and the general advice is to have relatively high pressure on tyres in the winter. You want them biting down through the snow, not floating on top of it. Unless you're planning to cross a glacier in Iceland, of course.
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caribcat



Member Since: 11 Jun 2009
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2013 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 USW Aintree Green
Great, and we need 2 sets!
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mse



Member Since: 06 Apr 2008
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caribcat wrote:
Great, and we need 2 sets!


Not always Mike
Post #50066 28th Dec 2010 10:33pm
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NoDo$h



Member Since: 18 Aug 2007
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England 
Would you buy your engine oil from a Land Rover dealer?

So why buy snow chains from them. Rud, weissenfels and Pewag all do suitable chains that will fit. Pewags are the absolute daddy's for heavy duty application, but a 16mm chain from Rud or Weissenfels will do the job for UK backroad snow use.


Pewag @ £369 for a heavy duty set

http://www.snowchainshop.co.uk/search-resu...uctspage=2 

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Post #50118 29th Dec 2010 2:04pm
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Toplink



Member Since: 05 Dec 2010
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Once snow is compacted or frozen needs chains.MT AT or any other fancy tread won't bite in with the conditions you described.
I had my first ever failed hill climb on snow on Christmas eve(30years driving LandRovers) We did 2x 360's before I regained control.I had chains with me but decided to take a different route. I have used grabbers in snow with no problems but not on the road you were on. The future is chains.
I bought a set of chains on good old ebay 1 set £63 deliverd.Not the best on the market but adequate to get me out of the pooh,and lets face it we may not see snow again for a few years.
Just out of interest I own a large 4wd tractor a set of chains for this will be £1000 an axle Shocked Its never over in my land rover.
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Arctic



Member Since: 25 Aug 2010
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I'd say proper winter tires for road use and a set of chains if driving off road in deep snow. The problem with M+S tires is that they are not real winter tires and the rubber is too hard for very cold weather. They will not grip well on snow and ice, unlike real winter tires, which are made of a softer rubber. When the temperatures gets well below freezing this makes a huge difference. With proper winter tires (studded or friction), chains are very rarely needed for road use, possibly on some very steep inclines.
Post #50215 30th Dec 2010 7:48am
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Setok



Member Since: 16 Jan 2009
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Finland 
Hear, hear. The difference between proper winter tyres and even regular M+S is big. It can be life and death big.
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bjartin



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Norway 
I have Nokian Hakkapeliitta LT 235/85 R16 with "snow / mountain top" symbol that is required to drive in winter conditions in some country (Germany). Very good on snow, but on the polished ice, I know that gravity wins ( Thumbs Up Willy).
In the old days in Norway, I had always sand / gravel in the trunk ( Thumbs Up discoch1 ), but not needed here in flat Denmark. Puma 90 MY 2010 (sold 2017)
Defender 110 MY 2001

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Post #50588 1st Jan 2011 10:17am
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