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Toplink



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Britpart LED headlight up grade...
Has anyone fitted the New Britpart LED headlight units?

Are they any good?

Would you recommend them? Its never over in my land rover.
2007 Defender HTop.
1952 Series One 80"
1977 Muir-Hill 111.
2014 Triumph Tiger800xc
1999 Discovery 2 td5
1982 Ransomes TSR300D.
2002 Yamaha XT600e.
2010 Freelander2 (the wifes)
2008 John Deere X140
Post #500092 3rd Feb 2016 9:09pm
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GREENI



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A friend has them. They look good. He loves them. They are Britpart.

Laughing there's the issue.
Post #500095 3rd Feb 2016 9:15pm
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Orangesofa



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Brace yourself for all manner of sweeping statements about how bad everything is that Britpart make and have ever made. Personally - I have no issue with some of the Britpart bits I have bought and others have served a purpose and been replaced later. I like to keep an open mind and consider if 'out of this world' quality is needed or whether 'good enough' will do.

No experience of the lights you mention but the B word can be enough for some to dismiss them without ever having seen them.... Wink Phil
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Toplink



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I have found Britpart to be the good and bad boys. I tend to take each product on its own merits. Its never over in my land rover.
2007 Defender HTop.
1952 Series One 80"
1977 Muir-Hill 111.
2014 Triumph Tiger800xc
1999 Discovery 2 td5
1982 Ransomes TSR300D.
2002 Yamaha XT600e.
2010 Freelander2 (the wifes)
2008 John Deere X140
Post #500109 3rd Feb 2016 9:35pm
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leeds



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Are you referring to Britpart DA6282?

Now Britpart uses a complete mixture of suppliers and can change the suppliers of a particular item.

Now that is for a RHD UK specification LED headlight.

Look at the specification

Quote:


> Certification - DOT & E-mark.



Now DOT is the American Department of Transport type approval used in 20-30 countries in the Americas. They are LHD countries! The light pattern for DOT approval is different to the light pattern for E approval.

This I personally find rather odd!

Quote:


Row lumen output:



What is Row lumens? Surely a typo for RAW lumens? I have seen this expression before coming directly out of China. What does that mean? That people just copy and paste the Chinese specification without actually reading it??

Ingress Protection Rating IP is missing. Why?

Now the standard Wipac OEM headlights and the Nolden OEM LED headlights have the H4 on the back of the light unit. The Britpart DA 6242 light has the connector on the end of a cable, so will not give a solid connection.

Personally I would go for a branded light rather then an unbranded light. At least you know what he manufacturer is.

However your vehicle, your money, your choice.


Brendan
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GREENI



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I didn't exactly say they were bad....time will tell. I put some Britpart discs on my 110 (that's what turned up)... I figured: how can they get a round disc wrong???

Warped in 2 weeks.

Wiper switch....put it on speed 2, the wipers stop.

In my personal experience, a LOT of Britpart parts that I thought 'I'll give them a chance' has failed. The brand new flexi hoses I put on the 90, were fitted, then removed and binned before they had chance to fail.
Britpart? Not for me.

Back to the lights,
Though I did say they look good (personal opinion) my friend loved how they work and said they are awesome.
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gazman



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If the last digit on any brit part item is a g I will buy it, if not I avoid.

G is their code for oem. I've not had any problems with anything by sticking to this. 2014 - current ..... 2003 defender td5 90 (my car)
2009 - current .... 2005 zx10r
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Disco_Mikey



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Scotland 2009 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Keswick Green
That's because it's not made by/for Brtipart Whistle
Post #500194 4th Feb 2016 6:16am
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Britpart do not have their own exclusive parts suppliers,not in a million,trillion years.
Britpart share exactly the same suppliers as Bearmach/Allmakes/LANDROVER.

I bought a GENUINE, LANDROVER DEFENDER ABS MODULATOR,made by WABCO,£1200 cheaper than Landrover charge....entirely thru BRITPART....Long live Britpart. Pov.spec,ftw. 2006, 110,TD5.
Post #500438 4th Feb 2016 2:32pm
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I too have had problems with brake discs on a Range Rover, it was just for a TD6, standard discs, how hard could it be I thought, and such a significant saving on genuine.

Then within weeks they were warped and I replaced them.

I'll never use them again. 2016 D4 HSE

1998 110 TUM HS FFR Hard Top XD WOLF

1982 Series 3 SWB Petrol
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Supacat



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leeds wrote:
The Britpart DA 6242 light has the connector on the end of a cable, so will not give a solid connection.


Is that the same as this light you sell? If so, I hope you amend your product description to state that they don't give a solid connection...
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leeds



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That is a Truck Lite generation 1 light.

It is a branded light unlike the Britpart light, it has a good IP rating of IP69K whereas the Britpart light does not even have an IP rating. At least with Wipac, Nolden, Trucklite, JW Speaker you know the manufacturers, can readily find out the specifications etc. With the unbranded lights there are many manufacturers who make extremely similar looking lights, are the specifications and quality of these lights from different manufacturers the same? Will the UK supplier be buying from the same manufacturer next week, next month, next year?

Yes the connection on the Truck Lite is on a flying lead, yes I do prefer the solid connections used by Wipac and Nolden who are OEM light suppliers to Land Rover.

Would you like to explain how that Britpart light is DOT approved E marked certified for RHD vehicles is road legal in the UK?

Because I do not understand how a single headlight unit can be both DOT and E marked.

The DOT system is mandatory in the USA and can be used in Canada and Mexico, all LHD countries. E marked system of headlights are used in 180+ countries, both LHD and RHD countries.

An explanation of the difference is

Quote:


To this day, there remain two distinctly different headlight technical regulations globally: The American SAE (or "DOT") standard, which is mandatory in the US and allowed in Canada and Mexico, and the European ECE (or "E-code") standard, which is required or allowed in most every other country around the world. The main difference between the two standards is in the level of priority placed on controlling glare to other drivers on the low beam setting. The American standard permits a relatively high amount of glare from low beams and allows a fuzzy, gradual transition from bright to dark as the beam is cast down the road. The European standard strictly controls low-beam glare, and requires a sharp "cutoff" line at the top edge of the low-beam light pattern. Above the cutoff is the dark glare-control zone, and below the cutoff is the bright seeing-light zone.



From here


Your vehicle, your money, your choice!

Yours confused


Brendan
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Supacat



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Clearly you are if most of your response address issues other than the single one I raised.

My single point is just this:

You're knocking a competitor's product on the basis it "has the connector on the end of a cable, so will not give a solid connection." but appear to be perfectly happy to sell the same sub-standard connector on your product. Confused

Personally, I'm far happier with the flying lead as I believe it's easier to make a solid connection by being able to push both parts together. I'm always trying to use minimum force on the direct connections as I worry about breaking the back of the lamp.
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jimbob7 wrote:
Britpart do not have their own exclusive parts suppliers,not in a million,trillion years.
Britpart share exactly the same suppliers as Bearmach/Allmakes/LANDROVER.

I bought a GENUINE, LANDROVER DEFENDER ABS MODULATOR,made by WABCO,£1200 cheaper than Landrover charge....entirely thru BRITPART....Long live Britpart.


Thumbs Up 993 Varioram - Guards Red
Defender 2.5 300TDI 110 HCP - Keswick Green
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Discovery 4 SDV6 HSE LUX - Corris Grey/Black Pack - GONE
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leeds



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Supacat wrote:
Clearly you are if most of your response address issues other than the single one I raised.

My single point is just this:

You're knocking a competitor's product on the basis it "has the connector on the end of a cable, so will not give a solid connection." but appear to be perfectly happy to sell the same sub-standard connector on your product. Confused

Personally, I'm far happier with the flying lead as I believe it's easier to make a solid connection by being able to push both parts together. I'm always trying to use minimum force on the direct connections as I worry about breaking the back of the lamp.


Yes we sell Truck Lites which have a flying lead.

I always try to give an objective view on items. In my opinion I prefer the connector on the back of the lamp. The chance of breaking the back of a LED headlight which normally is a aluminium housing is quite remote IMO.

We sell many items and I am not 100% happy with all the specifications of every item. Oztents are a good tent, however they have in my mind minus points, One is the packed length, two is the weight.


All items have plus and minus points.

Now would you like to explain how a DOT approved RHD headlight can be road legal in the UK??

Or why Britpart do not give an IP rating?

Or why Britpart do not give a manufacturers name?

It is interesting the use of the expression Row lumens which occurs on the specification of some Chinese suppliers of LED headlights. So why ROW?

Personally, I think it is important to have as much information as possible so that people can make informed decisions about their purchases

Your vehicle, your money, your choice.


Brendan
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