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jonnytatt



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United Kingdom 1988 Defender 90 300 Tdi SW Nato Green
300tdi PAS whine
Hello. Can a PAS pump whine with wheels straight and increase decrease in whine noise with the revving of my engine.

I have a whine thats almost always there and increases and drops off with a rev of the throttle. If i hold throttle on a bit the whines nice and steady. If i turn wheel a smidge the whine stops for a split second.

Alt . Water pump . Tensioner and viscous are new.

Lastly it disapears totally if i remove the belt and fire it to life for a few seconds .

thanks.
Post #497155 27th Jan 2016 8:57pm
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Mash



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Guernsey 1998 Defender 90 300 Tdi HT Nato Green
PAS pump is constantly engaged/driven, is there any play in the pulley/pump with the belt removed? 90 wolf - Jasmin http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic39408.html
90 V8 - Maggie http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic42564.html
110 TD5 - Buggsy http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic59029.html
52HG25 lightweight https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic72342.html
D3 Hse - Fiona
Capri 2l S - Anna

Think I might have a problem............
Post #497204 27th Jan 2016 10:18pm
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jonnytatt



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United Kingdom 1988 Defender 90 300 Tdi SW Nato Green
No there is no play in the pully with the belt off.
i must just have a slighlty noisier PAS than some . Unless its normal and im just being anal. Ive not got another running 300tdi to compare too
Post #497306 28th Jan 2016 9:29am
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jonnytatt



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United Kingdom 1988 Defender 90 300 Tdi SW Nato Green
I might add its more notable when the temps of the engine are up. Perhaps this is because the steering fluids are warmer due to usage
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I've recently changed my belt, water pump and alternator, my steering pump doesn't make a noise! My 109 thread

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Bumpymike



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United Kingdom 1992 Defender 90 200 Tdi SW Bronze Green
Try bleeding the steering box ... If not sounds like pump drawing in air.
Post #497496 28th Jan 2016 5:59pm
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jst



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^^^ could be air, bleed it again.

some do whine.

How old is the pump? miles? Cheers

James
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Post #497624 28th Jan 2016 9:28pm
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jonnytatt



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United Kingdom 1988 Defender 90 300 Tdi SW Nato Green
steering box is whining.
Hello anyone ever had expericance with a steering box whining.
i thought it may off been the pump. Its not

Ive had my long listening stick on it and its whiney when i rev the engine.

Noise disapears with some turn of the wheel. Model is 300tdi so 4 bolt box
Post #500256 4th Feb 2016 10:17am
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jonnytatt



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United Kingdom 1988 Defender 90 300 Tdi SW Nato Green
anyone ever had steering box whine
Simple question , anyone ever encountered steering box whine with rpm of engine.
Ive never heard it before . Its defonatley not my pump.

Thanks.
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Martin
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Hi, please don't ask the same question multiple times as you already have a thread with replies, I've merged everything together Smile

Check fluid level in the reservoir, and whether it looks frothy/bubbly. It shouldn't.  1988 90 Td5 NAS soft top
2015 D90 XS SW
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Mash



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Guernsey 1998 Defender 90 300 Tdi HT Nato Green
As you still having problems I would grab an assistant and a round file, placing the file against a component and the handle against your ear amplifies the sound, get the assistant to hold a variety of rev ranges whilst you check all components, just because they are new it doesn't rule them out.

Bleeding of the pas system is jack up the front wheels (less stress on components) engine on idle and go lock to lock, if this doesn't work there is a bleed screw I top of the steering box. 90 wolf - Jasmin http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic39408.html
90 V8 - Maggie http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic42564.html
110 TD5 - Buggsy http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic59029.html
52HG25 lightweight https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic72342.html
D3 Hse - Fiona
Capri 2l S - Anna

Think I might have a problem............
Post #500414 4th Feb 2016 1:50pm
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shaggydog



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United Kingdom 1991 Defender 110 200 Tdi USW Arles Blue
If you haven't done so, drain the old fluid, refill with new, run and cycle it a few times, then drain and refill.

I'm not sure if there is a specific flush for it but it might just be in need of an internal clean.

The power steering pump is very often forgotten on services and the oil can go off a bit.

Otherwise take a video and upload it? Running Restoration Thread http://www.defender2.net/forum/post323197.html#323197

Self confessed mileage hunter Very Happy
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jonnytatt



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United Kingdom 1988 Defender 90 300 Tdi SW Nato Green
Thanks for the help. Ive narrowed it down by using a bar to my ear .

Its actually coming from the steering box itself.

Im not sure why this would whine but it is.
If i apply some lock to the wheels the whine decreases
Post #501022 5th Feb 2016 8:22pm
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