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| Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018   
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Interesting to note what a Disco will do and the driver walks away unscathed...
http://www.9news.com.au/national/2016/01/1...ipping-car Watch the video  |
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17th Jan 2016 9:41am |
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| RockJaw Member Since: 15 Oct 2013 Location: United States Posts: 317  
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Ye, pity she wasn't driving a Defender, she could have driven the shocked bystanders to hospital. ****CENSORED**** |
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17th Jan 2016 10:04am |
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| Rich broom Member Since: 26 Jul 2015 Location: Tiverton Posts: 78 |
I love exaggeration for effect..
"Rolled several times before landing on it's side " That'll be just the once then! |
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17th Jan 2016 10:07am |
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| RockJaw Member Since: 15 Oct 2013 Location: United States Posts: 317
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The media accurately reported the reliable eyewitness accounts of the "shocked bystanders" which were clearly more reliable than the truck's dash cam (and which refused to answer any of the media's questions) ****CENSORED**** |
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17th Jan 2016 10:10am |
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| Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018
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I think what they say is accurate - it's gone more than 360 degrees and seemed to roll onto it's side, then roof, slid for a bit, back on it's side, then wheels, and then finally rolled back onto it's side. |
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17th Jan 2016 10:27am |
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| Tiger Member Since: 06 Jul 2012 Location: Wales Posts: 2265 
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I think if she was in Defender she could have been seriously hurt Don't kid yourself they are safe. |
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17th Jan 2016 11:16am |
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| SailingTom Member Since: 19 Nov 2013 Location: ESSEX Posts: 1715
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In a defender I think there's a chance that could of killed you.
Says something about peoples observation skills to manage to drive up a parked tow truck more I'd say! |
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17th Jan 2016 11:24am |
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| Caterham Member Since: 06 Nov 2008 Location: Birmingham Posts: 6276  
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noticed one of the alloy wheels has failed. a bit poor that in my mind?
to be fair it was only a small tow truck and there was poor visibility at the time  |
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17th Jan 2016 12:11pm |
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| Mr Fox Member Since: 10 Sep 2011 Location: green & pleasant land Posts: 1037 
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Based on the video, it would appear that the wheel failed when the entire weight of the vehicle was exerted onto it during the final roll onto the side (they all look intact until that point). I don't see that as being surprising or "a bit poor". Alloy wheels are not designed to have the entire weight of the vehicle placed on them at that angle and at force.
As for whether it was a roll, it looks like it to me, based on the video and anyone who thinks someone would have walked away with less injuries than that woman, in a stock (non-caged) Defender is kidding themselves. |
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17th Jan 2016 12:33pm |
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| miker Member Since: 13 Sep 2015 Location: Surrey Posts: 1762 
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Looks to me that both of the RHS wheels have failed. How dare they when the entire weight of the car was dropped on them, sideways, at speed...
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17th Jan 2016 12:48pm |
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| Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018
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Alloy wheels are plenty strong in the normal loading paths, just not strong in anything else - the benefits of the HD steel wheels is their resistance/elasticity to such side loads.
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17th Jan 2016 1:29pm |
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| RockJaw Member Since: 15 Oct 2013 Location: United States Posts: 317
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with the steel there is the possibility that the rubber could fail - which raises the question, what would be worse? ****CENSORED**** |
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18th Jan 2016 5:28am |
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| Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018
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Are you are talking about retention of the tyre on the bead? If so, then that's a common issue to both stel and alloy wheels, rather than a factor that works against steel wheels.
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18th Jan 2016 12:38pm |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17207 
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Disco 3 (and presumably 4) is widely regarded as having one of the strongest bodyshells of any modern car - if you're going to have an accident, it is the place you want to be. I believe that it is to this day the only vehicle where the manufacturer has issued instruction to rescue services highlighting where you should cut if you have to cut the roof off, after conventional cutting gear was quite simply unable to cut the A or B posts.
Those of you with long memories may remember the incident in this link: http://www.4x4community.co.za/forum/showthread.php?t=102495 This was an extraordinarily high-energy impact when an out-of-control Audi travelling at an absurdly high speed hit a Disco3. The Audo driver wasn't just killed, he was fragmented, as was his car, all those in the Disco survived. (Warning, don't follow the link if you are easily shocked). There can be no doubt at all that in the case of the Haberfield crash (or for that matter the South African one in the link above) the driver would have been very unlikely to survive, and pretty well guaranteed to have life changing injuries if they did survive, had the been in a Defender. You do have to wonder how stupid or unobservant you have to be to drive up the back of a tilt-bed recovery vehicle though! I also not the comment from the RV driver "it was like an aeroplane fell down out of the sky". Although some degree of exaggeration is perhaps understandable, it is clear that he's never seen the aftermath of a plane crash; clearly not a resident of Lockerbie. |
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18th Jan 2016 2:24pm |
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