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Stacey007



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DIY wet sanding using a Karcher power washer? anyone done it
Hello

In preparation of sanding down a Sankey trailer I'm looking at options for shot blasting etc to get rid of all the military paint, ready to rust protect and repaint,


I've had quotes to sand blast at £300 my time is free so I'm happy to give it a go. plus the gadget could be used for other stuff... I've read it can use a fair bit of sand mind...

http://www.amazon.co.uk/K%C3%A4rcher-Sand-...B000BFNAYC


Anyone tried it? other options? ideas?


Thanks
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JAY BOY



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Not done it but it looks really good have you tried Youtube Question
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Stacey007



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just did Very Happy

found this which looks impressive but I've only a std Karcher so not sure if as powerful (it does the flags ok)


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keith



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Stacey
Did you get the trailer you wanted and fix out your towing options ? Pics please
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JAY BOY



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That looks ok to me, it should work on most karchers i would think
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Stacey007



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Keith,


I have sorted a hitch (thanks to a forum member) its fitted but temporally as its the wrong height etc but I had a month to collect the trailer and then a text to say he needed it moving in the week.


I've a sliding drop plate hitch on order so hopeful fit the std ball and the nato on a removable plate. Current hook is:-



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I've de-greased it and plan on painting it black carefully so it blends in a bit more Smile


The trailer is :- I will post more when I have it...




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List of things I need to do / learn / fix / try / etc etc... 24v to 12v, etc

Hopefully as we get lighter nights...soon I will be out messing with it ! keep be busy...


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jimbob7



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I believe there are issues with using sand or glass to strip paint off "delicate car bodywork",using bicarbonate of soda is usually recommended.Alternatively you could use paint stripper ,but NOT Nitromors or any "domestic" paint stripper.A specific car paint or industrial stripper would be best,Starchem also gets good reviews.
Nitromors isn't good for much these days...so it seems.

Also "wetsanding" is totally different to "wetblasting", Wink .

http://www.frost.co.uk/search/?q=stripper&...wgodCyIEew Pov.spec,ftw. 2006, 110,TD5.
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Clive



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I bought a Karcher sand blasting kit as per the OP ages ago, I got it to try to strip the paint on a dilapidated garage door, never really had much luck with it TBH.

It depends on the sand being completely dry to flow up the pipe under a vacuum created by a Venturi in the water jet, the problem I found was that although it worked initially, when I stopped the jet, some of the water would run back down the pipe and into the bucket of sand, once the sand was wet the job stopped and I went back to elbow grease.
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The problem with sand etc on the panels is, I believe, the heat build up can warp the panels. An experienced blaster should be able to avoid that and change medium to suit.

Bicarbonate is good and can even be used on glass and rubber - but that gives an idea into its shortcomings .... It's so gentle that if you've thick paint it is very slow and thus expensive. I tried it on my blaster at home and it was good but not really suited to home use I think - it needs a lot of effort to keep the air dry and once wet I s in the Soda it's knackered. Even condensation is a real problem.
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Happyoldgit



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Ah memories of stripping umpteen layers of military paint off of various bits and vehicles. TBH these days I just couldn't be @rsed with the mess and aggro, I'd cough up the money and let someone else do it. Steve.
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jimbob7



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Also hard "medium" creates pits in the metal.Thick,high build primer MAY cover it. Pov.spec,ftw. 2006, 110,TD5.
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Rosco



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The guy who painted mine also did most of the prep, bearing in mind I'd already gone over it with an industrial steam cleaner and then sanded it with electric sander, used one of these
https://www.machinemart.co.uk/p/115mm-dia-...e-rust-re/


There layers of paint soon ruined the abrasive wheel but he got a better finish then I had left him with. 2007 - Stornoway Grey 90 XS SW - Gone
2002 - Black Discovery II - Gone
2014 - Montalcino Red 110 XS SW
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I am a big fan of wet-blasting since the advantages over traditional (dry) blasting are many and significant. I find it very, very hard to believe that a £50 accessory for a pressure washer is worth bothering with, though, since all it will be is a slightly "scratchy" pressure wash.

A proper wet-blaster is as far removed from a Karcher with a pick-up tube as a Defender is from a roller skate! One huge difference is that the energy for the wet blast process is provided by compressed air, which you won't get at all with the Karcher. (A wet blast actually uses air to blast damp abrasive, it does not use water to blast the abrasive). My Quill Falcon wet blast machine requires a massive compressor - a four tool road-tow compressor is sufficient, a two-tool is not really sufficient.

If you do buy one of these, please do feed back how well it works, I would be really interested to know. I don't think it will be very impressive, though.

Incidentally, if you want the best possible adhesion for new paint on steel, wet blast the surface to clean it, let it dry thoroughly (doesn't take long), treat the surface with an acid wash, then rub lightly with a Scotch pad, then prime, undercoat and overcoat in the usual way with the required number of coats. The adhesion will exceed oil industry standards.
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