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| leeds Member Since: 28 Dec 2009 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 8582  
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This
 Click image to enlarge would do a decent job of deflecting reversing volvos! 
There again I found out that my red 110 could stop faster then the following Volvo! Result 110 one very, very slightly bent rear bumperette. Volvo? Offside wing, bonnet, front panel and I suspect radiator. Think that was 110 1 Volvo 0
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17th Dec 2010 11:07pm |
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| BigRuss Member Since: 15 May 2010 Location: Norfolk Posts: 2785 
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Brendan,
What does the ARB bumper do fot your approach angle? Russell Russell 2011MY 110 XS USW Black |
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18th Dec 2010 9:57am |
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| leeds Member Since: 28 Dec 2009 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 8582
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The approach angle on our red 110 is much better as we are running that on BFG 255/85 (33" diameter) with heavy duty suspension (ca. 2" lift) The winch bumper on red 110 is a Devon 4x4 bumper which sits on top of the chassis front legs. This has a much better approach angle then standard.
Our black 110 is on BFG 255/85/R16 which is 33" diameter compared to 31" of many tyres. It is on standard suspension at the moment rather then heavy duty. Winch sits lower then on red 110. I would imagine the approach angle is similar to a standard 110 on standard tyres. We will be putting heavy duty suspension on. I don't have any side views to post up at the moment. I will try and take some side view photos during the week and possibly measure the angle. The ARB winch bumper come complete to us with winch etc at the right price. Since our red 110 has been in Australia and taken out some roos/sheep/emu etc good protection is a must. Plan is for the black one to go out in a couple of years hence why I took up the offer of the ARB bumper. HTH Brendan |
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18th Dec 2010 10:49am |
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| Glynparry25 Member Since: 16 Feb 2009 Location: Miserable Midlands Posts: 3015  
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Have you read the paper on it? At no point does it go into vehicles manufactured after 2007..... just a-bars manufactured after 2007. It also points out that it isn't illegal to buy an A-bar manufactured pre 2007 and fit it to a vehicle (doesn't mention age of vehicle). I was reading papers for days to make sure I was in the clear before I decided to go for the A-bar..... besides here in Germany they are 100 times more An@l about stuff like that. Oh.... you can also have one if it has a purpose, e.g. you are a farmer and you use it for work. Glyn  |
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18th Dec 2010 5:59pm |
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| nicks Member Since: 21 Aug 2008 Location: south coast Posts: 469 
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Its only illegal for dealers to fit from new
i have a steel a bar on my 08, insurance co know about it and it has made no difference to the price. I've seen driving lamps fitted to sot bars and they vibrate. for me steel is the only way to go. |
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19th Dec 2010 5:08pm |
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| leeds Member Since: 28 Dec 2009 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 8582
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Side view of black 110 Click image to enlarge The standard approach angle of a Defender is 49 degrees At end of ARB bumper it is 50 degrees, under the recovery eye it is 43 degrees and smallest approach angle is bolt head of the fairing and that is 41.5 degrees. There is a lift going on so that should restore the approach angle. Will do same with red 110 tomorrow. HTH Brendan [/img] Admin note: this post has had its images recovered from a money grabbing photo hosting site and reinstated |
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19th Dec 2010 7:40pm |
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| leeds Member Since: 28 Dec 2009 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 8582
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A side view of the red 110 overland vehicle. This is on 255/85/R16 and has heavy duty suspension which gives about a 2" lift. Which bumper sits on top of front chassis legs
Click image to enlarge The approach angle in front of the wheels is about 60 degrees. The lowest approach angle is in the middle and that is 54 degrees. Hope the information helps people Brendan Admin note: this post has had its images recovered from a money grabbing photo hosting site and reinstated |
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20th Dec 2010 7:41pm |
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| BigRuss Member Since: 15 May 2010 Location: Norfolk Posts: 2785
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Cheers Brendan Russell
2011MY 110 XS USW Black |
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20th Dec 2010 8:59pm |
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| discocuzzy Member Since: 16 Jul 2008 Location: surrey Posts: 1200 
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I would be surprised if any insurance company knew what an Abar was unless its NFU...tried to explain my mods to an existing insurance company after the fella asked what a winch was i put the phone down
 You cannot teach stupid people to do clever things |
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20th Dec 2010 9:37pm |
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