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Approximately 85,000 women and 12,000 men are raped in England and Wales alone every year; that's roughly 11 rapes (of adults alone) every hour
Nearly half a million adults are sexually assaulted in England and Wales each year
1 in 5 women aged 16 - 59 has experienced some form of sexual violence since the age of 16
Only around 15% of those who experience sexual violence choose to report to the police

Projectblue wrote:

Great, someone asked the question about immigration.

Next all the xenophobes come running to yell about how we need to shut down the borders and amazingly 'get the rubber bullets out'

Let's be clear - there are two separate issues.

1) Immigration/Migration of working people.
2) Refugees from war torn countries.

The large amount of people moving into Europe in the last six months are displaced from Countries like Syria & Libya. Such people are being refused entry to the poorer former Soviet Union Countries so they move on west. Why? I don't know. At a guess I would say Albania can't afford them to be there and the others are still reeling from civil war when Christian/muslim division flared up.

Why are they behaving in such a bad way after Countries gave them shelter? Some are - some aren't. There are stories of refugees cooking food the homeless, both German and others. And there are stories such as those mentioned above which appear horrific. BUT always be careful of the media. My cousin who lives in Canada kept sending me links to amazingly accurate newspapers like Daily Fail, or the Express. Honestly. That's not news.
If you want accuracy (and that's always questionable) check The Guardian, The Independent, BBC (see I said questionable) or CNN.

What you want to avoid is the likes of Fox News because it's as incorrect and biased as Al-Jezera. In fact I'd trust Al-Jezera above Fox.

Projectblue wrote:

Nice one there are few Americans willing to do that and take the time to find out the reality. Question is, what is the reality? I don't know myself, and I'm here and consider myself reasonably well informed

Brendan posted some excellent balance info there.

It's interesting that there is a perception in the US that Islam is in direct contravention of your constitution. I am neither a Muslim or a Christian. I do have values and I'm prepared to stand for those including fight for them. But they aren't so much religious based (I say that but the social laws of this Country are founded on Christianity base mixed with some paganism so..... ). Not anti religion either.
Anyway - It's interesting that a Country that is self styled 'land of the free' and has scientology and Mormon sees Islam as something that is anti it's constitution? If it is, then it is. But I'd like to know what you think that is so I can be more informed.

Great meme I saw recently says:
"A Christian, a Muslim a Hindu and a Bhuddist go into a coffee shop..... and all got on great because that's what happens when people aren't an assh*les "

n.b I'm not saying you are - and I am genuinely interested the same as you are asking us just clarifying

Lateralus wrote:

Mormons, scientologists, pagans, satanists and all the rest dont demand their own form of justice above the federal and state legal systems. They dont restrict women from voting or driving or stone gays to death. Those who practice sharia which is very popular, believe in these sort of stone age ideas. Not all muslims but many.

Its funny because in America the people who are for giving refuge to cultures that suppress women and gays are the same ones who pretend to be the champions of women and gay rights. The same progressives who mock christianity and chastize those who are against abortion are generally all for letting in people who are rigid believers in Islam.

I wouldnt call myself religious but Iam for individual rights. The smallest minority on the planet is the individual. Islam is.at odds with individual rights.

I see your point, and I agree to some extent however we are talking about extremes or one Country's version of Islam. Not the religion itself. Like all Religion, it's down to the people who interpret the book.

There is no proof that those fleeing a repressive ruler such as Syria, would get together and all decide that they wanted Sharia law. Like most human beings, the general population of refugees (and I'm guessing) just want to be alive. They want a chance to live somewhere that's not getting bombed. But as with any Country 10% of people are d**ks. You just need to watch out for them.

Sharia Law is wrong in my personal view. It's 300 hundred years behind 'everyone' else. However it's practiced in places like Saudi & sections of Iraq and Afghan where IS/Taliban rule. Not in Syria or I think Libya.

Although we have moved on to Religion and away from immigration, the two are I think intrinsically linked. New project and it's green: www.projectoverland.info

Pickles wrote:

No-one should get into trouble for voicing their views, because the subject is a MASSIVE problem Worldwide & will become worse, particularly for free, western democratic societies.
The problem is that there are too many "do-gooders" who encourage & enable these people to come, without thinking at all about what the consequences will be.
And the consequences are, Huge load on already stretched welfare budgets, no jobs, no housing, and these people are allowed to practise their own way of living, etc etc etc, which creates more problems.
My own view is that if you come here, even legally or whatever, it doesn't matter, but if you come here, you observe our laws, our way of life, and if you don't wanna do that, well then don't come.
Pickles.

+1

steve E wrote:

We need to get out of the EU while we still have a Great Britain.
Won't be long before the problems in Germany reach the UK.
We already have problems with child prostitution and trafficking that has been the gift of immigration.

If you put a Lion in a Cage with chickens, the Lion will not go Hungry.
We are the helpless chickens while people with different values take all they can.
I for one am against letting anyone in without proper accountability for who and what they are.
Time to get the rubber bullets out.

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Can't AV been chickens bred in Yorkshire we breed em tuff

steve E wrote:

We need to get out of the EU while we still have a Great Britain.
Won't be long before the problems in Germany reach the UK.
We already have problems with child prostitution and trafficking that has been the gift of immigration.

If you put a Lion in a Cage with chickens, the Lion will not go Hungry.
We are the helpless chickens while people with different values take all they can.
I for one am against letting anyone in without proper accountability for who and what they are.
Time to get the rubber bullets out.