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Mash



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Guernsey 1998 Defender 90 300 Tdi HT Nato Green
I do love lightweights, hopefully I shall have one in my collection one day. 90 wolf - Jasmin http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic39408.html
90 V8 - Maggie http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic42564.html
110 TD5 - Buggsy http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic59029.html
52HG25 lightweight https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic72342.html
D3 Hse - Fiona
Capri 2l S - Anna

Think I might have a problem............
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Rosco



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United Kingdom 2015 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Montalcino Red
Keith, thanks for the correction. Never seen a picture of one mounted there but I'll be on the look out now 2007 - Stornoway Grey 90 XS SW - Gone
2002 - Black Discovery II - Gone
2014 - Montalcino Red 110 XS SW
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Supacat



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United Kingdom 2013 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS DCPU Keswick Green
Mine was on the tailgate and also hinged at the top so that as the tailgate was lowered it swung out to miss the tow pintle and remain vertical.
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Rosco



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United Kingdom 2015 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Montalcino Red
A quick look around the web and I found this (sorry, but can't figure out how to get the picture to show)

http://hmvf.co.uk/forumvb/attachment.php?s...1376308465

Off Topic All this talk of lightweights has reminded me of one owned by a friend of a friend a few years ago. It had been built by the previous owner as a pretty serious trials vehicle (I think), chopped down range rover chassis (80 inch from memory) and a TVR tuned V8 under the hood. The only picture I can find of it is this one


which doesn't do the paint job justice, as it had metal flake in it like an old school dodgem car.

Sadly he put a diesel lump in it and painted it banana yellow Crying or Very sad Wonder what happened to it? 2007 - Stornoway Grey 90 XS SW - Gone
2002 - Black Discovery II - Gone
2014 - Montalcino Red 110 XS SW
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Supacat



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United Kingdom 2013 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS DCPU Keswick Green
Best photos I could find:


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Admin note: this post has had its images recovered from a money grabbing photo hosting site and reinstated Mr. Green
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TomekW



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Poland 2003 Defender 110 Td5 SW Bonatti Grey
keith wrote:
78 ? It's not a 2A.
Here's my 78. Join these guys http://forum.militarylightweight.co.uk/vie...p;start=10


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Keith,

what is the engine paint on your LWT?
Is it BS 101 Sky blue or other?

I have matched already the green for body, LRC001 - is exactly the same as I found inside the tool box Smile
But the engine color is a pain... 2021 Defender 90 D250
1998 TUL
1997 TUM FFR
2003 Defender 110SW Td5
1985 ExMOD 110 ST 3.9 V8
1971 Series IIa Lightweight
Post #488519 4th Jan 2016 4:39pm
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keith



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Scotland 
Tom
PPB supplies Ltd


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Supacat



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United Kingdom 2013 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS DCPU Keswick Green
I thought the engines were only painted like that if they had been reconditioned?
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keith



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Scotland 
^^^^

People’s recollections of the colour of new engines in at least S3 LtWts would be that it was not Sky Blue 101. They would be correct, the factory finish colour was in fact LAG.

Reconditioned engines were hand painted Sky Blue 101 as the EMER describes (note it was not available in spraying version) The info is reiterated in AESP 0200-A-221-013 but is metricized to 5 & 10 litres but is still only brushing not spraying.

All military Rover specs I have seen quote the engine interior & exterior to be the same. So the definitive answer for your engine is to drop the sump & look up.

But any recording of colour can be flawed it depends if it is photoed in daylight, bright sunshine, fluorescent, incandescent or flash. Looking at Will’s nice engine the interior shots make it look almost LAG but out in daylight on the greener side of Sky Blue 101.

As has been said there is a spectrum of manufacturer’s interpretations of a defined colour.
It is worth noting a “PRESERVED” engine is just that it is not necessarily one that has been rebuilt. It just means it has been preserved in accordance with EMER WORKSHOPS N 111 Chapter 2. Obviously an engine must meet the correct Inspection Standards to pass into preservation whether it is a take-out, had minor repairs or fully rebuilt. So a preserved one will be a good ‘un.

I don't know the spec for early LtWts but Rover engine colours for some contracts for the MOD in late 1950s-early 1960s. The enamel engine paint for both exterior & interior is specified as Donald Macphearson LSW.703. I have been unable to define that one. Crown paints who took over the company have no records. Again for those in doubt, drop the sump & see!

As far as the 90A generator goes EMER POWER W 104/13 instructs that a repaired generator should be painted with H1/8010-99-220-2046 & in COSA H1(a) this equates to Heat resisting, brushing, black, 5 litres. This is essential for insulation purposes & particularly important for the diodes & heat sinks when wading.

A contract rebuilt generator, as we are all familiar with, is Sky Blue 101. It has been mentioned that there could be confused with Sky Blue RAL & indeed I think different contractors have got confused. I have seen a very dark blue inside a generator but the more normal blue on the outside.




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Thanks to Clive on the LWT forum for this info .
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TomekW



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Poland 2003 Defender 110 Td5 SW Bonatti Grey
keith wrote:
Tom
PPB supplies Ltd


many thanks Keith!
Bow down 2021 Defender 90 D250
1998 TUL
1997 TUM FFR
2003 Defender 110SW Td5
1985 ExMOD 110 ST 3.9 V8
1971 Series IIa Lightweight
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Ramsay



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Scotland 1995 Defender 110 300 Tdi CSW Auto Keswick Green
Mine is a 1971 with an FJ plate. Mine had a reurbished engine fitted in 1975. It had a rebuild plate riveted to the side. Something to check for when you get into the engine. So mine was painted sky blue then. 1995 Defender 110 CSW
1971 SIIA Lightweight
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