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Smudger



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United Kingdom 2008 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SW Stornoway Grey
Door Hinges
so one of my doors is now sagging, what should I replace the hinges with, same crap as before or does anyone make something significantly better?

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RRUK
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Which door is it? 2016 D4 HSE

1998 110 TUM HS FFR Hard Top XD WOLF

1982 Series 3 SWB Petrol
Post #475846 24th Nov 2015 5:02pm
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Smudger



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United Kingdom 2008 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SW Stornoway Grey
Second Row Off Side but TBH they're all looking a bit iffy. I'm thinking of getting all new having them painted and replacing the lot.

S 08 110 Puma Station Wagon
65 Jaguar XF Sportbrake S
99 Elise 111S
Honda XR250
42 Royal Enfield Flying Flea
43 Matchless G3L
Post #475852 24th Nov 2015 5:23pm
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I am surprised, the second row doors don't have much weight in them, unlike the rear safari door. 2016 D4 HSE

1998 110 TUM HS FFR Hard Top XD WOLF

1982 Series 3 SWB Petrol
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K9F



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United Kingdom 2008 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Stornoway Grey
Really? It is a very common trait.....

http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic36784.html?highlight=hinges

http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic30868....inges+worn

http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic20079....inges+worn If you go through life with your head in the sand....all people will see is an ar5e!!

Treat every day as if it is your last....one day you will be right!!
Post #476075 25th Nov 2015 1:20pm
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blackwolf



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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Stornoway Grey
I think that it is all to do with (a) how often the hinges are lubricated, and (b) how often you open the doors.

It wouldn't happen if LR fitted grease nipples to the hinges!

Incidentally has anyone successfully removed the hinge pin from a genuine hinge? I though it would be easy with an appropriate size pin punch but they don't seem to budge at all, which makes me think that the bottom of the pin must be 'upset' to expand it into the hinge body after assembly.


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Post #476078 25th Nov 2015 1:37pm
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mk1collector



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England 2004 Defender 110 Td5 CSW Bonatti Grey
Croytec hinges (although expensive) have built in grease nipples and look rather better built that standard Landrover hinges. Ray
My build thread
http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic17615.html
Post #476085 25th Nov 2015 2:28pm
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Alex1976



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I replaced all my hinges with alloy ORP hinges and can't praise them highly enough. Very strong and don't think they sag anytime soon.
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Supacat



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mk1collector wrote:
Croytec hinges (although expensive) have built in grease nipples and look rather better built that standard Landrover hinges.


Well I didn't know that - they certainly don't seen to make any fuss on mentioning it:


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They are a work of art but does the bolt used as a hinge pin actually make your door that bit easier to steal?


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blackwolf



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Not if you glue a ball bearing in the socket in the head!

I did this to all my original hinges and it is staggeringly difficult to replace them when they wear! It is almost too effective!
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Supacat



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Done that to the 4 horizontal bolts on each of my doors - just pointing out that the added functionality of an easily re-buildable hinge is a double edged sword in this case. Thumbs Up

Just make sure you use top quality ball bearings - not sure where some of mine came from and they rusted up within a year and as you point out they are difficult to remove! Rolling Eyes
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dave18



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United Kingdom 1984 Defender 110 300 Tdi CSW Portofino Red
There was a right up somewhere in the net. You pushed the old pin out. Drilled the top ole slightly then tapped the bottom and fitted a shanked cap screw. You could also drill and tap for a grease fitting which I did on my old 90 made a huge difference.

Reference get the pin out I used some heat and a good 5lb hammer and punch.
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dave18



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Could you not put them on upside down so you can't see the head?
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West Yorkshire Lofty



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Scotland 2015 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 HT Fuji White
Croytec Hinges
Old XS110 went through 2 sets of front hinges in the 6 years I had it!

Went Croytec for the front doors and windscreen blocks on my keeper.

Greased Spring and Autum, no problems.

Went Optimill for the back door, still look like new.

Cost a fortune (but she's worth it) just don't tell the wife!

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2005 R300 Keeper
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mk1collector



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Supacat wrote:
mk1collector wrote:
Croytec hinges (although expensive) have built in grease nipples and look rather better built that standard Landrover hinges.


Well I didn't know that - they certainly don't seen to make any fuss on mentioning it:


Click image to enlarge


Click image to enlarge


They are a work of art but does the bolt used as a hinge pin actually make your door that bit easier to steal?


Click image to enlarge


Just fill them with epoxy resin and paint the resin the same colour as the hinge and 99.9% of people wouldn't even notice it, then if the pin needed removing just dremel out the resin. Ray
My build thread
http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic17615.html
Post #476363 26th Nov 2015 12:49pm
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