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Rickydodah



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Last litter, they took to the crate really well. As an aside I find Savic crates are best, they're galvanised sturdy and with few sharp edges, also the plastic trays can be purchased separately if they get chewed. Thumbs Up



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Romadog



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Sooooo Cute !

have they been having a peeing competition up the fence? Rolling with laughter
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Rickydodah



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Sorry no, that was the wife Whistle I started with nothing and still have most of it left!
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Thanks for all the advice folks. I bought a big crate but he went nuts being taken away from his family for the first time so after 30 mins of hysterics I asked my wife to drive the 2.5 hr drive home and I held him in the back seat and he was fine for the rest of the journey. He will be going in it again twice a day for only a mile journey so should settle in it ok. The crate rattling like mad freaked him out just as much I think...

I am continuing his diet of raw mince ,beef, Turkey, chicken and greens and a bit of pro plan kibble in the evening. So he is used to it for camping, emergencies etc. The breeders said he would be fine on chicken wings!! Hmmm need more research on that.

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Rickydodah



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Lovely pup, looks like he's settling in. Thumbs Up I started with nothing and still have most of it left!
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Use the crate inside, as his bed. You can also play 'crate games' with him in there which helps work on impulse control as well as seeing the crate as a 'good' place.

Getting them to settle and sleep in a crate at s young age is good for all sorts of reasons - traveling, being left on their own, not being destructive etc. It isn't cruel or heartless in the least. If you put the pup in to go to bed they inevitably may howl a bit at first but be strong and don't go to them until they are quiet! It can take some time and will power but the results are so worth it. It also helps with toilet training.

The breeder we got our BC from (working ISDS registered, bred for working, not showing) feeds chicken wings (raw) to pups as second stage weening, just before they leave to go to new homes. They thrive on them!

Just a note re. BC markings - there is no such thing as 'perfect' ! The original BC Old Hemp, was a tri-colour, no big white blaze and no huge white neck ruff. Working bred pedigree BCs come in all shapes, sizes, colours and markings. The look isn't important but they need to be fit and healthy and the natural ability to do their job. It is only since people started breeding for show KC pedigree that any sort of 'standard' look and shape has been established.

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Thanks all. he slept with the door open in his crate last night in the kitchen and I slept outside in the hallway so he could see me. He wined for a bit but settled down ok. He has a very nice character, very confident and friendly compared to others in his litter, he hasn,t got perfect markings but not bothered about that, temperament is key for a non working BC pet although he has herded up our chickens already. He is really stocky, very thick legs like his older relatives. My last working BC was quite a thin chap and he was short haired so appearances are completely different. This one is Crufts pedigree line so completey different. I would like to get another in a couple of years but sailing with two would be tricky in my small boat, one is ok as I have done before. My boat has a cockpit tent which is ideal for him at night, hope he doesn,t get sea sick, he was ok in the car whilst I was feeling green from my wife's driving Laughing
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Hmmm can see a problem trait! We have a 55metre frontage onto a quiet road but it,s still a road with cars that a certain BC has wanted to chase already!! I have planted 30metres of it with Portugese Laurel and a chain link fence already ran the entire length not all shown in the pic.

Question how do you deter a BC from chasing traffic Shocked He can't get through or over yet but my last one didn,t do this... Just don,t want him spending all day running up and down the fence.



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It's very hard as the chase/herd instinct can be stronger in some than others.
walking him on a lead next to the road will help as he will get used to them being part of the norm.
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Id agree, he needs desensitising. I'd start in the garden and distract him, with dare I say it, treats, or other reward when a car passes. You'll probably find it best with a long trailing lead. Do you have the opportunity for someone to keep driving past so you can get some consistency with the distraction within a reasonable time frame? Once he's reasonably sound in ignoring the traffic in the garden then venture out on a lead. He needs to focus more on you his handler than he does on anything which goes by, in his terms there has to be a greater reward in staying with you than exercising his instincts in herding. Good luck Thumbs Up Thumbs Up I started with nothing and still have most of it left!
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Thanks yes, he gets his first injection today but holding him whilst he watches a car go by may help at the moment until I can get him out on a lead. Only just put his collar on him an hour ago, shame I can,t put a video up of him going nuts with it on, used to it now...
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Zagato wrote:

I am continuing his diet of raw mince ,beef, Turkey, chicken and greens and a bit of pro plan kibble in the evening. So he is used to it for camping, emergencies etc. The breeders said he would be fine on chicken wings!! Hmmm need more research on that.


You'll be fine feeding chicken wings as long as they are raw. Ive fed my labs on raw chicken wings from 8 weeks old. Also feed raw chicken carcasses, raw lambs ribs, raw whole sardines (head first).

They also have days on raw pulped veg, but these days are separate to the bone days. Veg goes into the food mixer along with whole raw eggs and sometimes cottage cheese. To entice a dog to these veg meals stir in a tin of tuna or pilchards complete with oil from the tin, to give it a nice scent.

Heres our Murphy at 8 weeks old chewing on his first wing..



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When you say raw chicken wings, can dogs tolerate salmonella as we are told that many chickens carry these bacteria and for humans we are told to cook chickens to eliminate the bugs. For those who like Welsh Mountains and narrow boats have a look at my videos and photos at..

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