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Rickydodah



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Fingers crossed for this one, good looking pup with lovely markings and an honest face Dog I started with nothing and still have most of it left!
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My parents had a wall eyed BC before I was born and she was there throughout my childhood and into my late teens The eyes have changed colour in all the youngsters I've had over the years. Nice looking pup, hope the attachment is longer lasting than the one you had with your Puma. Steve.
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Went to see new puppy today and he is just fine, comes from good lines and sold by a couple with 40 odd years experience of showing, obedience, Crufts etc. They had the mother, grandfather, sisters etc all at home.

Picking him up next Saturday at 8 weeks, his markings are not perfect but I,m not bothered about that, the whole family has a really nice temperament. He is fed on mince, chicken wings and pro puppy and is huge for his age Shocked but will only grow to border collie size in the end. I was always told not to give dogs bones as they wear teeth down and small ones can get stuck! Maybe chicken wings are safe. Need to train him not to kill our chickens at home Shocked

Realising there is quite a difference between show and working Collies. The owner was quite strong in his opinion of not having his knackers taken off as it changes the character etc. I wasn,t going to anyway, didn,t with my last Border Collie. Buying a crate was recommended for home and car, Doesn,t sound nice but I suppose it makes sense when he is young anyway...

Almost wish I had bought one of his sisters also to keep him company...

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Awesome news and congratulations on your new family member Very Happy
Keep the pics coming Thumbs Up
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He's a beauty Chris, we had border collies when I was growing up they were fantastic dogs. All the best for your new addition arriving 👍🏼👍🏼 2014 110 2.2TDCi XS Station wagon
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Nice dog and back to the food I use Wainwright's grain free dry and also the grain free wet (12 trays in a box). This is Pets at Home's own brand and gets decent reviews and cuts down on a lot of the fillers that some foods have. Might be worth looking at
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gilarion



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Zagato wrote:
Buying a crate was recommended for home and car, Doesn,t sound nice but I suppose it makes sense when he is young anyway...



Nothing wrong with crates for dogs
Crate training puppies from an early age and getting them used to sleeping in the crate is a great aid for keeping your puppy safe. Dogs learn to love their crate as their very own special secure place. Give the pup lots of treats and praise so that he knows you are pleased when it’s in the crate.
However with pups there are some don’ts such as: Never close a crate door on a pup that is not relaxed. Never push a pup into the crate; get your pup to walk in on its own. Otherwise, you will create issues where the pup feels confined and trapped, seeing the crate as negative.
Also buy a crate big enough for the pup when it’s an adult, but when it’s a pup block off one end to make it smaller so the pup feels more secure in the crate. For those who like Welsh Mountains and narrow boats have a look at my videos and photos at..

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scotty38



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Agree with this. Ours had a crate from day one and apart from first night whines he's loved it ever since. We've moved it out recently (he's just over two now) as he started sleeping in the lounge on his bed but now and again he'll wander around looking where it used to be. They definitely come to think of them as their space...
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I've never used a crate and never had the need but something a friend mentioned a few months back made me consider it for the next dog.

In the event of a house fire we all have (should have) an escape plan - what do you do when you dont know where the dog is? He crates his dog overnight and knows exactly where to get it on his way out.

My dogs roam about the house at will but settle with us upstairs at night, in the event of a fire I'm not sure where they would go if they awoke before me and the smoke detector bedlam.

I'm still not sure but its certainly something else to think about.
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Zagato wrote:
He is fed on mince, chicken wings and pro puppy and is huge for his age Shocked but will only grow to border collie size in the end. I was always told not to give dogs bones as they wear teeth down and small ones can get stuck! Maybe chicken wings are safe. Need to train him not to kill our chickens at home Shocked

Great looking pup Chris, I hope it all goes well for you this time matey... Thumbs Up

I have no experience of BCs, their training, feeding or otherwise, but I have kept dogs most of my life and I have always understood chicken bones to be among the worst for dogs, although chicken meat itself is, of course, not an issue... Shocked

Chicken bones splinter into nasty sharp pieces that put you canine friend at risk in so many ways, but others may have an entirely different view, of course... Rolling Eyes

At the very least, I would check with your vet before considering including any bones in a dogs diet... Mr. Green
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We put one in a crate in the day (mostly) great to stop puppy chewing accidents and mischief - but other than that i hate crate, if we only had 1 dog i probably wouldnt bother (we didnt on the first). My hope is we can get rid of he crate as soons as possible

I wouldnt like to be in prison all day Mike
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gilarion



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NEVER give a dog chicken bones and if you live near a Kentucky or any other fried chicken take away be aware that people discard the chicken bones when walking home, and a dog out for a walk will quickly gobble them up so be aware.

Similarly I would not recommend Raw Hide chews as there is no nutrient in these things and they cause a build-up of gastric juices in a dog’s stomach when the dog spends hours chewing these things, over time this can also lead to problems.

Knuckle ended marrow bones are fine if fresh and dogs love them, however once the dog has licked out the marrow take the bone away. Do not give a dog sticky ribs not only do they splinter but the spice on them even when you have chewed off the meat will give the dog the runs.

Pigs Ears are not recommended as they are full of bacteria.

With the exception of a good quality Dry dog food ,and do not buy any dry food that is full of coloured bits such as Bakers as the dyes they use are full of ‘E’ numbers and the manufacturers only add the colours so we humans think the mix is good.

Dog treats such as gravy bones are Fine.
My rule of thumb is with a few exceptions, do not give your dog anything to eat that you would not eat yourself.

And never ever give a dog CHOCOLATE especially dark chocolate it is poison to a dog and can kill it.
The same applies to GRAPES and RAISINS these food can also kill a dog For those who like Welsh Mountains and narrow boats have a look at my videos and photos at..

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mse



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The top tip i think is moderation - everything in moderation and small amounts unless its healthy.

Loads of people say dont give dogs chocolate - dont, but my friends dog (collie) eat maltesers Birthdays, easter, christmas and live for 16.5yrs.

Equally my last dog loved grapes, he was a collie an lived to 15.5 died of a brain issue, nothing to do with that, so just be careful Mike
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Rickydodah



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Some really good advice here today Bow down , crates are an excellent tool in my view particularly in a busy household as it will give the pup somewhere to hide away and feel comfortable, especially during the Xmas/New Year firework season. I've a selection of crates now for various reasons when a dog needs confining but for a pup in a big cage I'd put in a divider otherwise the dog will use part for sleeping and part for a latrine which will hamper house training. The subject of bones is a thorny issue personally I'd only allow a dog with milk teeth to chew a large knuckle or beef foreleg. Uncooked bones of a chicken or rabbit are fine when the dog's teeth and digestive system are old enough to cope, don't forget normally the bitch would regurgitate solid food at the weaning stage of the pup's development. I often use Whelpi milk powder as a supplement with a pup on the transition to solids as some can be fussy at this stage and trying to get sufficient nutrition into them can be difficult. Generally speaking a dog's palate is underdeveloped in comparison to our own, strange and illogical but true evidently which is why they can eat some really foul stuff in our eyes but delicious to them. I only alter their diet according to the season and whether they're working or resting and if this is done then it's done slowly, remarkably a dog has a very sensitive digestive system, again strange and illogical and does therefore benefit with being fed the same food, some owners will often say the dog is poorly with the runs, and on enquiry it is normally after being fed some thing unusual, nothing has been wrong with the quality of the food it is only the digestive system reaction to something strange. I look forward to the weekly photo blog Chris. Thumbs Up I started with nothing and still have most of it left!
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