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| Lambley Member Since: 20 Apr 2013 Location: Mid Devon Posts: 1435   
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Without knowing what's upset you it's difficult to know if it's 'normal', but I have to say this is THE most civilised forum I've ever been on. The members are friendly, informative, supportive and even knowledgable now and then.
Please give it time because it's worth persevering. Honestly. |
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15th Nov 2015 11:09pm |
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| Cuthbert Member Since: 26 Oct 2013 Location: Up North Posts: 1535 |
Is this post for real or is it an attempt at a 'wind up'? Personally I find this forum has some very helpful members but it also appears moderated to the point where little criticism is tolerated - so I'm completely puzzled by the OP's posting? If people go onto a public forum seeking opinions, then they should expect a diverse range of opinions in return. Diversity of opinion can be very healthy and some folk can struggle to differentiate between serious comments, diversity of opinion and general banter. To those who have helped me on this forum - a big thank-you. |
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15th Nov 2015 11:10pm |
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| T1G UP Member Since: 08 Dec 2009 Location: Bath Posts: 3101  
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i should coco!
this is the rich mans forum, hence the civility. Its would be pistols at dawn for the wretched few! i'm here on a scholarship  |
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15th Nov 2015 11:15pm |
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| leeds Member Since: 28 Dec 2009 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 8580
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Now what actually constitutes rudeness on this forum?
Is it actually rudeness or banter between forum members who may well know each other very well? Is it a forum members way of expressing themselves? Some members might be long winded at times ( guilty your honour!), some are very succinctness, then others are masters of the written word. Bad language as such occurs very rarely on this forum and is not tolerated. When questions such as 'what is the best......' You will not get a consensus of opinion. Today I thanked Martin for the current banner and also Def 2 members for not using hateful/ offensive language about a rather tragic incident. So I am struggling with the concept of rudeness on this forum. Difference of opinion yes, rudeness no. Maybe the OP would like to enlighten us with what he considers to be rude? Brendan |
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15th Nov 2015 11:28pm |
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| nitram17 Member Since: 08 Jun 2014 Location: newcastle Posts: 2261 |
Hi I am new to pumas also but I have been on here about a year coco and in some ways you are right but most people on here are kind and very willing to help...some of the old timers i think get sick of the same old questions appearing from new members eager to solve the same old problems or just trying to find out stuff about their new pride and joy. I think martin should do a sticky for new ownere of FAQ and then we may avoid the "use the search button"tirade from the usual grumpo old timers(i dont like the search button as some of the results are old and i would prefer a simple reply made in the present) A lot of people on here are trying to sell you stuff,and obviously dont take kindly to critisisms of their products,lots of people have set ideas about what a defender should look like,and many have taboo subjects that can only be muttered if you have the right handshake! My advice is ignore the numpty replies as you will soon learn who to avoid and you will get some sound advice as I know I have! Enjoy Your defender..Have a look at the "Security threads"or the "A bar legality"or the "what do you do for a job"thread as it was an eye opener for me!.............as to the type of folk on here! " i do find it refreshing that there are no "speling or grama or tyopo "nazi's on here as you usually find them on other sites! |
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15th Nov 2015 11:43pm |
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| WhiskyJackR Member Since: 25 Nov 2014 Location: Lizard Posts: 159
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Coco.
Don't be put off by some of the threads you will have read when as a new member you are trawling the site for information. I've been a Rennlist member and contributor for approaching 10 years and so on this site approaching a mere one year that makes me a relative newbie (despite having owned Land Rover products since 1992). Rennlist and it's membership I would say stand out as a world class forum. I have found the people that I interact with directly on this site to be both helpful and respectful and I have to say I very much enjoy participating in conversations here. I would say that this site compares favourably with Rennlist, oh and by the way, I pay a subscription on Rennlist. In the main you come here for information, assistance and understanding. This you have in spades. Be patient, remain circumspect and you will find that you are in the right place. Any farther South and I'll need to trade the Defender in for a Landing Craft  |
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16th Nov 2015 12:45am |
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| gilarion Member Since: 05 Dec 2013 Location: Wales Posts: 5108  
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What a shame.
Sometimes comments are misinterpreted on the whole. I would like to think on this forum we are a happy folk that welcome new members with knowledge great or small. If you have been made to think you have been undermined, then that has been to the detriment of existing members, who should know better. Stick with us, most of us know how to treat new or existing members of this forum with respect. For those who like Welsh Mountains and narrow boats have a look at my videos and photos at.. http://www.youtube.com/user/conwy1 |
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16th Nov 2015 1:22am |
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| Coco Member Since: 14 Sep 2015 Location: Liverpool Posts: 19
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Thank you for your responses to my comment. I agree most of the help is excellent , my comment referred to other peoples questions and the replies that they received. I go on to this forum daily and read most of the replies, you've got to admit some of them are undermining, its not the NEW Members fault that the question they ask has been discussed many times. I agree with nitram 17 comment
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16th Nov 2015 8:27am |
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| RRUK Site Supporter Member Since: 31 Mar 2010 Location: Leicestershire Posts: 2025
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You spelt spelling, grammar and typo wrong Nitram....
(I know it was deliberate - I'm not being rude!)  2016 D4 HSE
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16th Nov 2015 8:40am |
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| GREENI Member Since: 22 Aug 2010 Location: staffs Posts: 10378
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If everybody used the search button, there would hardly be new content.. It's like the 'tyre' question, there's new tyres coming out (ko2's for eg), so why not start a new thread?!! Though a link to an old thread would be more helpful than telling people to search.
There's no harm in it....if old (long standing) members don't want to see a new thread, press the back/next button. If you were originally referring to the 'Bentley wheels' thread, I was a bit surprised by some of the comments, it's not something I've seen often, to be honest. |
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16th Nov 2015 8:47am |
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| gw8izr Member Since: 09 Jul 2015 Location: Island of Anglesey Posts: 24
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I dont like those Bentley wheels but I figure what someone else does to their vehicle is nowt to do with me.
I did think some of the comments were a bit excessive and wondered what the motivation behind them was. The vehicle looks no worse than some other modified vehicles that seem to have been well received.. that seems odd. I'm fairly new here and so far this forum does seem a bit more clique based than most. I'm not warming to it yet |
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16th Nov 2015 8:57am |
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| flydive Member Since: 27 Aug 2015 Location: Lugano Posts: 290  
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Totally agree. It's something that I find stupid and rude. A new member ask a pertinent question and he get flooded with answers like "Use the search button" (this forum is ok, but some are really bad) The forum stay alive because people ask questions and other answer, otherwise we could just shut everything down and use google. It usually take less to provide a correct answer than yell "use search" and maybe attack to poster. If you find the question stupid or that it does not deserve a good answer, well do not answer at all. But as said this forum (and the others of the "group") are usually good on that. |
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16th Nov 2015 8:59am |
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| Lost for Words Member Since: 18 Jun 2015 Location: Warminster, Wiltshire Posts: 200 |
Interesting. Online forums always bring out the best and the worst in people. I've observed the "use the search function" reply often (on various forums), but I don't recall seeing it presented rudely very often. I've not been over here long, but I'm a member of all Martin's LR forums and, as far as I can see, this one is just like the others - very polite and civilised.
Online discussion is always fraught with risk of misunderstanding and subsequent arguments, and TBH, I don't really like that, but I find that careful choice of words, use of the positive emoticons and being a little selective with replies can often avert any conflict. There are usually members on a forum with opinions that I disagree with etc., but I never let it stop me offering them help on an unrelated matter. Some people are also more computer literate than others, which can have a significant effect. 
Occasionally, I want to reply to something, and I type a reply, but then think better of it if I find I just can't present it in the tone I wanted, so I don't submit it - others might have different judgement, and would submit something I wouldn't, and vice versa. I always try to assume the best of people, and take answers in the best possible way.  Visiting from DISCO3.CO.UK
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16th Nov 2015 9:34am |
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| K9F Member Since: 12 Nov 2009 Location: Bournemouth Posts: 9610 
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Personally what I can find irksome are those that purely visit the forum to look for a resolution to an issue and then have absolutely nothing to contribute until their next problem and the associated quest for a solution. Then again that is what forums are for I suppose? There were those that also just used to register to knock something on too.
I like helping people and find "Search reveals:" and a few posted links to the relevant information sought also assists those with an 'apparent aversion' or oversight in the use of the search facility, which is indeed a very useful tool. If you go through life with your head in the sand....all people will see is an ar5e!! Treat every day as if it is your last....one day you will be right!! |
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16th Nov 2015 9:43am |
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