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| Buwster Member Since: 26 Jun 2014 Location: Fgura Posts: 35   
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Hi fellow puma owner
 The EGR in a puma 2.4 is not exactly the same way as a TD5. On a puma, one needs to remap the ECU in order to close the cycle electronically first. If this is not done, additional and unwanted lights on your dash will pop up nicely. Either Pete Bell (BAS Remap), Gary Wood (Alive) and IRB. These are three good guys you can rest assured regarding their knowledge.
Check with them if you need more information you can also search on TDCI remapping and EGR blanket on this forum. There is lot's of info regarding this. Hope this helped you out. |
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18th Oct 2015 2:59pm |
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| K9F Member Since: 12 Nov 2009 Location: Bournemouth Posts: 9610  
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Here you go!
If you go through life with your head in the sand....all people will see is an ar5e!! Treat every day as if it is your last....one day you will be right!! |
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18th Oct 2015 3:28pm |
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| expatRob Member Since: 24 Feb 2015 Location: Frankfurt Posts: 58  
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Ok Buwster, So I get a BAS REMAP and then blank of the EGR where K9F says to.
1. What BAS REMAP do I get from BAS services. BAS2 RRC DEFENDER 2.4L TDCI 2. Can I do it myself? |
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18th Oct 2015 4:32pm |
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| Buwster Member Since: 26 Jun 2014 Location: Fgura Posts: 35
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I think its better if you have a chat with Pete in order to explain the process, as I am doing mine next month (At the moment I'm waiting to get the allisport intercooler installed in order to get a stage 2 remap ). You can find him on facebook, or you can contact him from his site.
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18th Oct 2015 9:15pm |
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| K9F Member Since: 12 Nov 2009 Location: Bournemouth Posts: 9610
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You don't need to blank it if you get an EGR closed map and the EGR is functional at time of installation of the map.
If you go through life with your head in the sand....all people will see is an ar5e!!
Treat every day as if it is your last....one day you will be right!! |
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18th Oct 2015 9:19pm |
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| expatRob Member Since: 24 Feb 2015 Location: Frankfurt Posts: 58
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Thanks I will talk to Pete at BAS Maps and see about that. I can just plug the EGR back in and do a closed Map.
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18th Oct 2015 10:14pm |
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| Buwster Member Since: 26 Jun 2014 Location: Fgura Posts: 35
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Yes, the best way to go around it is to remap the puma in order to get the beast out of it
This will also help in the ease to drive and he can even lift your restrictions (130 KMH) |
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19th Oct 2015 6:08am |
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| o4dn Member Since: 08 Jan 2010 Location: South West Posts: 549  
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Those that Mal had fitted are not of the same type as the ones found on e.g. ebay, they won't fit on the same side, those from ebay go right before the EGR on the left side, after the gaz cooler. I had one fitted a while ago (the partial blanking one) but I didn't have enough hands to take pictures while fitting it, unfortunately
I did the lower bolt from underneath, pretty easy actually, at least a lot easier than from above. |
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19th Oct 2015 7:40am |
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| K9F Member Since: 12 Nov 2009 Location: Bournemouth Posts: 9610
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The ones depicted are NOT mine but they were fitted in the same place! I was just showing where they went. My blanks came as a set of six. The orifice size ranged from 8mm up to 19mm. The idea being each Defender is different perhaps a remap fitted, snorkel, performance air filter etc....You started with the large orifice and over time gradually reduced the orifice until the MIL light was initiated and then went back to the previous size blank and left it, basically finding the blank that was ultimately suited as far as possible to your own truck. Later versions of these blanks had slots and a tab incorporated that meant you could slip the old one out, new one in in about 5-10 minutes. I ended up fitting the smallest 8mm. An EGR closed map followed but I have still left the blank in situ in case I revert the map back to standard. As stated previously you DO NOT need to blank if you have an EGR closed map and your EGR is functional at time of map programming! In answer to question 2 remapping a very easy process and can be carried out at home in about 15-20 minutes once you have the correct tools, and your modified software sent to you via e-mail. If you go through life with your head in the sand....all people will see is an ar5e!! Treat every day as if it is your last....one day you will be right!! |
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19th Oct 2015 8:13am |
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| o4dn Member Since: 08 Jan 2010 Location: South West Posts: 549
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Speaking from my own experience (not saying that it would apply to everybody out there), I had the EGR closed electronically for less than a year and when I reverted back to the original map for MOT, the EGR was clogged up and made horrible noise even when driving, so I reckon it makes a lot of sense to fit a blanking plate especially if you have the EGR disabled electronically. That said, I am now running on the genuine software with the EGR and its cleaning cycle all functional, and a partial blanking plate and this is, for me at least, the best and cheapest option (just a few quids for the partial blanking plate). |
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19th Oct 2015 8:55am |
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| K9F Member Since: 12 Nov 2009 Location: Bournemouth Posts: 9610
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Hi o4dn I am curious as to why after spending out on a remap (not a small sum) you would want to run on genuine software? Especially if you've no impending dealer visit and out of warranty? Is it to keep the EGR functional perhaps? Just curious? If you go through life with your head in the sand....all people will see is an ar5e!!
Treat every day as if it is your last....one day you will be right!! |
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19th Oct 2015 9:00am |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17541 
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What was it about the map you were running that made you think it would fail an MOT? Just curious. I've been running a BAS no-EGR map for the last 5 years and have had no MOT issues whatsoever, and in fact under current MOT rules I don't think it is possible to tell if it is working or not. It may all change in the future of course, especially in the fallout from the VW "defeat device" scandal. |
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19th Oct 2015 9:14am |
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| o4dn Member Since: 08 Jan 2010 Location: South West Posts: 549
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Several reasons actually.
Main reason is legality, where I live a remap is simply illegal and would invalid my insurance in case of a claim, this is enough to keep me awake at night 
A remap makes little or no difference off road (which is where a Defender should be), I find the torque sufficient with the genuine map for my off-road use. It's is nice and fun on the road, but illegal anyway. As for the EGR, I also found that my car runs better and smoother with the EGR enabled, and it's also a lot quieter. Fuel economy is the same with or without so it makes no difference. But I admit the EGR and the remap are two different things, you can always ask for a remap with the EGR enabled, that's the main point when dealing with a reputable and knowledgeable tuning company, you do get exactly what you ask for (I am very grateful to the tuning company I chose and would definitely recommend it) |
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19th Oct 2015 9:29am |
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| o4dn Member Since: 08 Jan 2010 Location: South West Posts: 549
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The map itself would have gone unnoticed most likely. French MOT ("contrôle technique") is a joke as compared to the MOT, admittedly, but they do check for NOx emissions at the exhaust so they are able to tell whether or not the EGR is functional.
Precisely. Disabling the EGR will increase NOx emissions and I'd bet they will look more closely now thanks to VW... But again, remap and EGR are two different things. I dunno if a remap would change the CO2 emissions though, as they also check for that. |
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19th Oct 2015 9:39am |
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