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| bpman Member Since: 21 May 2008 Location: Oslo Posts: 8069  
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Rigid industries halo torch, small and 900 lumens.. After an eye full it Will blind anyone for a few minutes
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11th Oct 2015 11:35am |
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| ken Member Since: 18 Aug 2009 Location: Banging Birds with my bitches !! Posts: 4328 
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If you need to go this route a criminal identifier spray is the way forward
Initially a coloured dye but also an uV paint as well |
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11th Oct 2015 11:46am |
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| PDH Member Since: 03 Dec 2009 Location: Shropshire Posts: 179 
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You can make your own pepper spray, works quite well if you get the measures right and not illegal to carry. You can then just fill a pressurised spray bottle.
Potent Pepper Spray Recipe Ingredients: 2 tbsp Cayenne Pepper Rubbing Alcohol Baby Oil Small Glass Clean cloth Second small glass Spray bottle Directions: First, you will need to put the cayenne pepper into the small glass and then cover with rubbing alcohol until it is about 2cm above the pepper. Stir the alcohol and pepper for three to five minutes. Add an ounce of the baby oil to the glass and stir for two minutes. Place the small thin cloth over the top of the glass and pour the contents through the cloth into the other glass, allowing the cloth to catch any large pieces of pepper that remain. This will keep the spray bottle from becoming clogged. What is in the second glass is your homemade pepper spray. It is usually a dark brown or red color and doesn’t have a pleasant odor. Once you have completed this process you need to pour the liquid into an empty spray bottle. Put the cap on and then you are ready to use your pepper spray whenever you feel the need to protect yourself. This pepper spray works well because it is not water based. Water based products generally don’t work as well as the cayenne pepper breaks down in the water. The oil and the alcohol ensure that this does not happen. When the substance gets into the eyes of the attacker, it will sting bad enough that they will be stopped in their tracks. Puma 2.2 90 Stationwagon |
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11th Oct 2015 12:03pm |
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| need4speed Member Since: 23 Nov 2012 Location: Kilmarnock Posts: 746 |
Thanks for the responses guys.
I'm liking the idea of the home brewed pepper spray. Is there a recommended type of cloth to use as a strainer? Also, what is the best kind of sprayer to use. There are so many different kinds and a lot of them are really crap..  |
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11th Oct 2015 1:53pm |
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| gilarion Member Since: 05 Dec 2013 Location: Wales Posts: 5110  
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Muslin fabric or cheese cloth works well as does the standard blue/white/pink or green dishcloths sold at nearly all supermarkets For those who like Welsh Mountains and narrow boats have a look at my videos and photos at..
http://www.youtube.com/user/conwy1 |
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11th Oct 2015 2:47pm |
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| Projectblue Member Since: 22 Nov 2011 Location: Devon Posts: 1096 
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Sorry to hear about the situation that lead to this.
Just a word of caution; I doubt anyone will be surprised by the fact that pepper spray is an offensive weapon. If you use it you can be done for assault. That said, as the saying goes 'I would rather be judged by 12 than carried by six'. <edit> doh, missed the line where you said you know it's illegal. There are siren type loud noise emitters. Or enrol her in a Crav Megra class. The torch idea that BPMan suggested is good, it's temporary but very effective. New project and it's green: www.projectoverland.info |
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11th Oct 2015 4:47pm |
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| need4speed Member Since: 23 Nov 2012 Location: Kilmarnock Posts: 746 |
I know it could be classed as an offensive weapon, but another saying I like is... I'd rather have it and not need it, than need it and not have it...
Especially when the safety of my gf is concerned.. |
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11th Oct 2015 5:06pm |
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| leeds Member Since: 28 Dec 2009 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 8581
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Pepper type sprays wether homemade or commercial are probably illegal to carry in the UK.
Realistically where is your gf likely to carry it? After a while in the bottom of handbag or a pocket after a while? So a situation arises and your gf 'jumps the gun' and uses the pepper spray first before it could be reasonably argued that 'self defence' was called for. Would suggest you have a look here, some ideas on what is not only legal to carry but also use. Brendan |
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11th Oct 2015 5:59pm |
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| need4speed Member Since: 23 Nov 2012 Location: Kilmarnock Posts: 746 |
I'll be honest I'm not a huge fan of these alarms. By the time someone responds (if they respond) the damage could well be done.
My gf isn't easily intimidated and I'm confident she wouldn't use the spray unless she genuinely felt threatened. In which case I'd rather she used it and argued with the law later.. |
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11th Oct 2015 6:19pm |
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| Browjam Member Since: 03 Jun 2014 Location: South East Posts: 114 
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Another is carry a travel size can or deep heat/ralgex - that in the eyes will smart
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11th Oct 2015 7:20pm |
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| tonyhedge Member Since: 07 Jul 2015 Location: Worcestershire Posts: 101 
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Two links (possibly) worth looking at:
https://www.askthe.police.uk/content/Q589.htm http://www.crimepreventionproducts.co.uk/d...gas-alarms Neither is a recommendation, just a suggestion! [edited to add: my personal recommendation would be to also undertake some form of licensed self-defence training. A combination of confidence and awareness goes a long way to reducing, but can never eliminate, risk.] That's not a dent, it's a rivet. That's not a dent, it's a rivet. That's not ... oh! That is a dent! 2014 90 XS SW 1997 Discovery 300TdiS (retired to stud) 1966 Series IIA 88" (now my son's) 2001 Astra - I need something to go and buy the parts when the others are off the road! |
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11th Oct 2015 9:36pm |
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| sparkylee Member Since: 06 Nov 2010 Location: surrey Posts: 1455 
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I guess a spray / pump action perfume will do exactly the same job as the Peper spray if directed into the eyes and no one will question why a lady has such an item in her bag
It's good to be back from the dark side
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11th Oct 2015 10:19pm |
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| Projectblue Member Since: 22 Nov 2011 Location: Devon Posts: 1096
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I go back to the Krav Maga lessons. One of the ways this stuff helps is that by knowing you have the power to defend yourself, you become less 'victim' which defuses some of the issues. The downside is, because their rational thinking has departed, it can't put off someone who is intoxicated.
I can understand your point on worrying about her being in trouble for using it after the 'threat' has been countered. However these things need to be practised. If you do go through with getting one, she needs to understand how it works, and how to find it and deploy it when under pressure. Practice that because she needs to be able to think clearly and get it out and use it. So get two, or three and practice with one. N.b When you do practice, at the end ensure you both fully wash your hands before doing anything else. You do not want to touch something sensitive (like your eyes - what were you thinking about?)  New project and it's green: www.projectoverland.info |
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14th Oct 2015 11:51pm |
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| SiWhite Member Since: 19 Jan 2010 Location: North Hampshire Posts: 455 
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Sorry to be the bearer of bad news...
Section 5.1 Firearms Act 1968 reads as follows; "A person commits an offence if, without the authority of the Defence Council , he has in his possession, or purchases or acquires, or manufactures, sells or transfers.....any weapon of whatever description designed or adapted for the discharge of any noxious liquid, gas or other thing" Case law has held that a washing up liquid bottle full of a noxious liquid constitutes a firearm under this legislation. A bright torch is a much safer bet IMHO. My blog - www.anacreinhampshire.blogspot.co.uk 110 TD5 BuildHERE - sold! 110 Tdci Build HERE - sold! Passat Alltrack - 4x4, auto, 45mpg, gloriously comfortable - but not a Defender! |
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15th Oct 2015 7:22am |
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