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** READ BEFORE Posting: For Sale & Wanted Forum Rules **
This revision of the For Sale & Wanted forum rules is effective from 6th June 2018.
Revision 7: ad pricing moved up, no policy changes
Revision 6: ad pricing for those who do not qualify for free ads. Explicit ban on posting simply to get up to 25 posts. For-profit sales also not allowed unless you are a site supporter
Revision 5: explicit ban on requesting payment by PayPal gift - against PayPal T&Cs
Revision 4: ad title section updated following introduction of ad type selection box
Revision 3: update to bring into line with sister sites
Revision 2: addition of section regarding sale or request spoiling
Revision 1: first version
BUYING AN AD
If you don't qualify for free ads (for example, you have fewer than 25 posts or are new to the site, you can buy an ad through the site shop instead:
Buying an ad only removes the 25 posts and/or 1 month of membership requirement. The other rules must be complied with.
Your use of the various For Sale & Wanted forums, either as a listing originator or a responder is covered by the following rules.
NOTE: if you feel that you have something to list but it would contravene one or more of the rules (for example, you have an extreme reason to need a free ad) or you can't state a price for your item or items) then do contact me via PM or e-mail to see if/how an exception can be made. I hope that we can be flexible enough to accommodate all.
Summary of Rules
The DEFENDER2.NET For Sale & Wanted forums are provided for established site members to trade surplus (non-profit) items related to the Land Rover Defender (including pre-Defender 90/110/127).
Items listed "For Sale" MUST have a price stated and MUST be for sale - not potentially for sale.
Sellers may not ask to be paid by PayPal gift, selling items using this payment method is against PayPal's T&Cs.
Advert posts MUST have an advert type selected from the drop-down list
No posts directing people to items for sale elsewhere, whether by a link or item reference (name or number)
We do not charge for site access or for qualifying individuals (see "Who can list") to sell items, please consider a Donation
Companies or company representatives MAY NOT sell items on the site without a sponsorship agreement - please see the Commercial Posting Rules for more details about site sponsorship and the restrictions applied to business postings.
You MAY NOT sell items for profit using the DEFENDER2.NET FS&W sections without contacting the site administrator for a site supporter agreement BEFORE listing.
Don't spoil others' threads, if you have a comment which could be seen as damaging a sale or request then send a PM in the first instance.
The DEFENDER2.NET administrator, and the moderators and staff, cannot accept any liability for items listed or for any losses incurred from the use of the classifieds forums. If you are a victim of any activity you feel is illegal please report this to the moderators who will endeavour to help you.
The decisions and actions of the administrator and the moderator team are FINAL, no correspondence or conversations regarding their activity will be entered into.
Who can list
In exchange for free use of the site and the free For Sale & Wanted forums sellers are expected to contribute to the site. This means taking part in discussions and not using the forum solely or mainly for selling items.
Therefore, only those site members who have established themselves on the site are permitted to post in the For Sale & Wanted forums for free.
"Established" means that you have been registered for at least 1 (one) month AND have made at least 25 posts on the site. To help you establish yourself on the site, consider introducing yourself in the Welcome to DEFENDER2.NET thread and sharing some information about your vehicle in the My Defender forum.
This means that you absolutely MAY NOT register for the site to make a For Sale post in one of your first few posts. Any such postings will be removed without prior notice. Repeat offenders may be banned from using the site.
You may also NOT post a flurry of new messages simply to increase your post count to "unlock" the FS&W forums - this is not a normal and honest use of the site. Such posts and any ads will be removed. Repeat offenders may find themselves banned.
Companies or company representatives MAY NOT sell items on the site without a sponsorship agreement - please see the Commercial Posting Rules for more details about site sponsorship and the restrictions applied to business postings.
Individual members (non commercial) MAY NOT sell items for profit using the DEFENDER2.NET FS&W section unless you are a site supporter. You MUST contact the site administrator for a site supporter agreement BEFORE you post an advert.
Individuals (non commercial sellers) who do not qualify for free ads may purchase a parts and/or vehicle advertisement through the site shop: vehicle ad or parts ad. Once you purchase an ad you will be contacted with further details.
What you can list
The DEFENDER2.NET For Sale & Wanted forums are provided for site members to trade items related to the Land Rover Defender, including pre-Defender 90/110/127.
This includes, but is not limited to vehicles, parts, accessories and literature. Items from other vehicles which fit the vehicles above are also permitted.
Items not covered by the above may still be listed, for example other vehicles or non-vehicle items. However such adverts are accepted solely at the discretion of the site administrator and/or moderator team.
Items which MAY NOT be listed include, but are not limited to, firearms and ammunition, knives, tobacco and tobacco products. If an item is deemed inappropriate it will be removed by the moderator team.
You MUST NOT list items which infringe intellectual property rights, i.e. trademarks and copyright. For example, this means you CANNOT sell, give away or request copied (non-genuine) satellite navigation system DVDs (genuine discs are allowed), or items produced bearing a third-party logo without the consent of the logo owner.
You may not post links or references (number, name, etc) in the For Sale & Wanted forums to items listed on auction or sales sites (e.g. eBay, Autotrader, Pistonheads), whether or not the item is being sold by you
All items listed as being "For Sale" must be freely available - a FS listing is not to be used to test the water for interest or to discover what price should be asked for something. Use the "General" or "Off Topic" forums as appropriate for this.
Acceptance of all listings in the For Sale & Wanted forums is at the agreement of the site administrator and/or moderator team, who may request modification to your listing or may remove it without notice.
How to list
To list in the For Sale & Wanted forums, start a new topic for each SET of items you are selling at one time - it is NOT necessary to start a new topic for EACH item
You must select the correct advert type from the drop-down list, either "For Sale", "Wanted", "Swap", "Free" or "Auction".
All items posted "For Sale" MUST have a price stated, it is NOT admissible to ONLY state "offers", "POA" or "contact me for the price". "ONO" (or near offer) or "OVNO" (or very near offer) ARE permitted, as long as a guide price is stated.
You may not request to be paid using the PayPal Gift payment system. This is against PayPal's terms and conditions, as you are removing any protection the buyer has. Items listed with this payment method will be removed without notice.
Photographs are advisable, do not be surprised if prospective buyers request pictures of your items. See here for information about adding images to your listing: Uploading and Posting Pictures
There is currently no charge for site access or for private individuals to sell items, so please consider Donating if you make a sale, or if you find an item you want being given away for free.
Listing information
Don't spoil others' threads, if you have a comment which could be seen as damaging a sale or request then send a PM in the first instance. For example, if you feel the price is too high, as items advertised elsewhere are a lower price, or similar price for a newer item, then tell the seller via PM. The moderators reserve the right to remove posts which are deemed to be affecting, or with the potential to affect, a sale or request.
The DEFENDER2.NET administrator, and the moderators and staff, cannot accept any liability for items listed or for any losses incurred from the use of the classifieds forums. If you are a victim of any activity you feel is illegal please report this to the moderators who will endeavour to help you.
If you have seen a listing which you feel is breaks these rules, please report it to the moderator team by pressing the report post icon on the top right of the post. Do not reply to the listing, just bring it to the attention of the moderators and we will deal with it.
These rules will be reviewed on a regular basis and updated accordingly.
Last edited by Martin on 6th Jun 2018 8:25pm. Edited 11 times in total
14th Sep 2011 11:04am
Martin Site Admin
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Update: now on revision 2, added section about spoiling FS&W threads. 1988 90 Td5 NAS soft top
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20th Feb 2012 10:01am
Martin Site Admin
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Location: Hook Norton
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A reminder about these, they are not to be ignored. I urge Defender2 members to help by reporting FS ads which don't comply. I appreciate we all like a bargain, but the community is being abused. 1988 90 Td5 NAS soft top
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4th May 2012 10:13am
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Updated to version 3 to bring into line with DISCO3/4 1988 90 Td5 NAS soft top
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12th Jul 2013 10:49pm
Martin Site Admin
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Now on Version 4 1988 90 Td5 NAS soft top
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28th Aug 2013 5:49pm
Martin Site Admin
Member Since: 02 Apr 2007
Location: Hook Norton
Posts: 6611
Now on version 6, you can now pay for an ad if you don't qualify for one for free, and various other clarifications to bring us into line with DISCO3/4. 1988 90 Td5 NAS soft top
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13th Oct 2015 4:02pm
Martin Site Admin
Member Since: 02 Apr 2007
Location: Hook Norton
Posts: 6611
A polite reminder to everyone particularly about this:
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Don't spoil others' threads, if you have a comment which could be seen as damaging a sale or request then send a PM in the first instance. For example, if you feel the price is too high, as items advertised elsewhere are a lower price, or similar price for a newer item, then tell the seller via PM.
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14th Sep 2011 11:04am
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