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x-isle Member Since: 26 May 2011 Location: Midlands Posts: 1327 |
Hiya,
I know the (sometimes) painful process of re-registering a UK car into Portugal but was looking for advice on Defender specific. Has anyone done this. I'm more concerned around modifications as not sure how the authorities and insurance take a view. It's possible I may be looking to matriculate my 2007 110 XS. It doesn't have any performance modifications, just a bit of protection and off road modifications. Thanks in advance for any help! Craig Rogers 2007 Puma 110 XS 2011 Evoque Coupe Dynamic Lux www.craigrogers.photography Last edited by x-isle on 26th Jul 2015 9:19am. Edited 1 time in total |
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26th Jul 2015 7:17am |
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x-isle Member Since: 26 May 2011 Location: Midlands Posts: 1327 |
Thanks Simon.
I've noticed the many times I've been there that it seems that modified vehicles of any sort are scrutineered a fair bit. Although, I have seen some well prep'd off roaders. Most of my bits are just underbody protection. The only thing that will probably raise an eyebrow is my wheel spacers but can always go back to thinner tyres and remove them, there isn't too much need for mud tyres out there. The wheels are standard. I've sent a message to the Land Rover Owners Club in Portugal for more information. Craig Rogers 2007 Puma 110 XS 2011 Evoque Coupe Dynamic Lux www.craigrogers.photography |
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26th Jul 2015 8:20am |
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x-isle Member Since: 26 May 2011 Location: Midlands Posts: 1327 |
....the more I look into this, the more I've decided to not do it.
There is a possibility, but not many have managed, to re-register a car without paying the import duty. This is a hot topic as many think it's against the EU rules, however, the EU still allow it. However, it's not easy and unlikely to get away without paying it. Therefore, the import tax is based on engine size and emissions....oh dear!....... If a Defender is a "car" then the cost to import it is almost, wait for it....... 19,000! WTF!?!?!? If a Defender is a "commercial vehicle", then it costs around 3,000 to import it. Many of you would say, sell up and buy another Defender in Portugal. Portugal is a very cheap place to live, everything is much cheaper than most of Europe......except 2nd hand cars which are eye watering. For example, an old car that you could pick up in the UK for less than £1,000 would cost around 6,000 in Portugal. There are 2 reasons I was intent on taking it with me; 1. The high cost of 2nd hand vehicles 2. My Defender is in the £500 tax bracket here, so limits my selling audience somewhat. Craig Rogers 2007 Puma 110 XS 2011 Evoque Coupe Dynamic Lux www.craigrogers.photography |
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26th Jul 2015 10:31am |
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Fabio Member Since: 05 Aug 2011 Location: Somerset Posts: 589 |
Just keep it on uk plates.
I went with my brother when he had his mot done and there was a car with uk plates having the mot done... And i think you can do it. Also most of the cars i see in the algarve don't have tax disc up to date. This obviously before the end of the tax disc. I didn't go there this year. Fabio |
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26th Aug 2015 4:55pm |
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x-isle Member Since: 26 May 2011 Location: Midlands Posts: 1327 |
A lot of people do it, but it's actually illegal.
For a foreign vehicle to be legal in Portugal it has to be in the country for no more than 6 months and taking it to Spain and back doesn't count. Also, a Portuguese MOT means nothing even though people get it done. A foreign vehicle has to be both taxed and MOT'd in the country of registration. This is an EU rule. As I said, lots of Expat do this, however, lots have also been told to take the vehicle out or risk having it impounded and then face a very heavy tax bill. Things have changed since I originally posted. Although the Defender would be great fun out there, we've decided to take the Evoque (which I can do tax free) with us instead (and our Motorhome which I'll pay the tax on), therefore, my 110 will be up for sale in the next few weeks. Craig Rogers 2007 Puma 110 XS 2011 Evoque Coupe Dynamic Lux www.craigrogers.photography |
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26th Aug 2015 9:01pm |
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Fabio Member Since: 05 Aug 2011 Location: Somerset Posts: 589 |
How can you take the evoque tax free?
I know the law, if i could i would have a soft top there for when i go on holiday. The tax and prices of cars in Portugal are mad. Where in Portugal are you to? Fabio |
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27th Aug 2015 4:29pm |
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x-isle Member Since: 26 May 2011 Location: Midlands Posts: 1327 |
Any non-Portuguese EU resident can take one vehicle into Portugal tax free if they are taking up residency, but like most things in Portugal there is a lot of red tape and paper work involved. If one part of the application is wrong, you end up paying the tax.
As long as the vehicle has been owned for at least 12 months and you've lived in the same country as registration for 12 months then it "can" be brought in tax free. Once completed, you then have to keep the car for a certain amount of time, can't remember if it's 12 months or 3 years. We are using an agent in Faro to take the Evoque in free of tax, but will have to pay tax on the Motorhome as they are both registered in my name. The Motorhome isn't a huge amount of tax as it's classified differently. As much as the Defender would be fantastic, it's a bit silly to sell the Evoque and take the Defender. As for the cost of cars in Portugal, even very old 2nd hand ones....... It's the reason we are taking ours with us. We've not got anywhere as yet, but will be in the Central Algarve area, probably around Silves. Most of our (Portuguese) friends live and work around Alvor but we don't want to live in a tourist beach town, but close enough to get there. Craig Rogers 2007 Puma 110 XS 2011 Evoque Coupe Dynamic Lux www.craigrogers.photography |
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27th Aug 2015 10:06pm |
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Fabio Member Since: 05 Aug 2011 Location: Somerset Posts: 589 |
That is what i am allowed too.
I can take a car with me (tax free) when i go back for good, hopefully it will be the defender. Silves is where i got married. We go there every time we go on holiday to Portugal. My brother and my wife's family live in Armacao de Pera and my wife has an appartment there. Next time i go there (maybe next year) i'll keep an eye out for an Evoque. Are you moving there? or is it just for holidays? Fabio |
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28th Aug 2015 12:40pm |
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x-isle Member Since: 26 May 2011 Location: Midlands Posts: 1327 |
We are moving there for good once we sell our house. If you draw a triangle between Silves, Messines and Tunes, this is the area we hope to be in. Close enough to the coast and close enough to the mountains for my biking. Over the years, I've had a lot of happy memories from Portugal and it gets harder to come home every time we go. Craig Rogers 2007 Puma 110 XS 2011 Evoque Coupe Dynamic Lux www.craigrogers.photography |
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28th Aug 2015 12:45pm |
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Fabio Member Since: 05 Aug 2011 Location: Somerset Posts: 589 |
Nice! I like that area.
Some nice restaurants in Algoz. Good luck with the move Craig. Fabio |
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28th Aug 2015 12:52pm |
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Def90 Member Since: 17 Jan 2015 Location: Kent Posts: 259 |
I know this is an old thread but has anyone had experience of the matriculation process with a modified Defender ?
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9th Jun 2018 9:33am |
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Fabio Member Since: 05 Aug 2011 Location: Somerset Posts: 589 |
Modifying anything on a vehicle legally in Portugal is very hard.
I'm not sure when you bring in a foreign vehicle. But it will probably be the same. What do you mean by modified? Fabio |
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9th Jun 2018 11:18am |
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Def90 Member Since: 17 Jan 2015 Location: Kent Posts: 259 |
Hi Fabio
I have a few genuine Land Rover accessories fitted like a steering guard, rear step, side steps but then I also have different wheels & tyres changed the dampers and springs up rated the rear ARB, also have some under body protection I could go on itβs a long list! All pretty standard stuff for owners on this web site but from what I have been reading about importing a vehicle into Portugal possibly all issues. Just wondered if anyone had attempted the matriculation process with a modified Defender. |
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9th Jun 2018 7:36pm |
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Fabio Member Since: 05 Aug 2011 Location: Somerset Posts: 589 |
Hello Sir,
I asked a friend and if you are moving to Portugal and giving up your UK address then it is possible to do. But expect to pay the tax as if it were a new vehicle when it comes to emissions. If you are thinking of just importing the defender to Portugal it costs a little fortune. Unless it is a commercial or hard top as it is called here. But it isn't cheap either way. If it was i would have a series there for the summer. Let me know what you are going to do as i would love to put a series in Portugal for the holidays. If there is anything you think i could help with let me know. Fabio |
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9th Jun 2018 9:10pm |
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