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El Rey



Member Since: 25 Aug 2015
Location: Gunbarrel Highway
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Ordered 110 - now dealer says Factory forcing extra features
I signed a contract for a Defender 110 with 'Black Pack' a week ago, for delivery in March 2016 to Australia.

I got a call from the dealer today saying that the factory has said this vehicle must also come with a 'Run Out Pack' that includes:
- Bullbar
- Side protectors
- Wing chequer plate
- And an undefined 'chequer plate set'

The charge for this pack is about $5500 AUD extra on top of the existing agreed price,
and if I don't want that Run Out Pack, the implication is that the deal is off.

Land Rover - are you really forcing people to take extra equipment?
If not, would be pleased to hear it. If so, would like some more information about why.

Thanks
Post #449018 25th Aug 2015 11:58am
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Browny90



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Location: Derbyshire
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United Kingdom 2004 Defender 90 200 Tdi SW Stornoway Grey
sounds more like your dealer has ordered the wrong vehicle and are now trying to get you to foot the bill..

I would tell them to get stuffed, go to another dealer and order what you originally wanted.. buying new, there shouldn't be much difference in the price..

I find it hard to believe that LR will be forcing mods onto vehicles, I would argue, as a contract is legally binding so surely they cant just say "its more than we agreed, so pay up or the deal is off.." Its no different to you saying I'm not paying the agreed price, but I still want what the mods we agreed.. My 1986 90 is currently on a full rebuild, with new chassis, Paint etc.. Very much a hybrid, TD5 Chassis, tub & bulkhead with a 200TDI and LT77 GB Painted in Stornoway Grey Smile 2 years off the road, but getting close to completion now
Post #449025 25th Aug 2015 12:20pm
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El Rey



Member Since: 25 Aug 2015
Location: Gunbarrel Highway
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My concern is that there may not be that many 110's still available for order at this point,
so if I pull the plug then I might not find another one even close to what I'm after.

Mine was ordered a week ago, is due to hit the assembly floor in September/October and
arrive in Australia in March.

Other dealers over here re indicating they can't always get what they want in Defenders these days.

Cheers for the advice.
Post #449035 25th Aug 2015 12:44pm
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ericvv



Member Since: 02 Jun 2011
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I strongly doubt that a bullbar (certainly the metal Aussie type) and checker plate would be put on during vehicle assembly in Solihull factory. Sounds like things which will be bolted on either by JLR Australia if they would decide to have a run of limited edition vehicles or so, or otherwise by the dealer in Australia. Side protectors, unless they mean the standard side steps which can be a Solihull installation, the same.
Ask the JLR Australia importer directly maybe?
Of course, nice that at this 11th hour you were still able to order a brand new vehicle, so your negociation power may be limited, and others may be all too happy to take your order over.
Eric You never actually own a Defender. You merely look after it for the next generation.
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Post #449049 25th Aug 2015 1:46pm
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El Rey



Member Since: 25 Aug 2015
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Appreciate the tips. Cheers
Post #449058 25th Aug 2015 2:29pm
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Go to another dealer and try to place an order. If this works, tell the other dealer to stick it! 2016 D4 HSE

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Post #449061 25th Aug 2015 2:33pm
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El Rey



Member Since: 25 Aug 2015
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Yes good call - I've reached out to a few today as Plan B.

Cheers
Post #449064 25th Aug 2015 2:35pm
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Pickles



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El,....Ring JLR Customer Service in Aus, OR, send a PM to the JLR Rep on this site, Ryan, and see what they have to say.
Pickles.
Post #449256 25th Aug 2015 10:32pm
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El Rey



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Will do - thanks
Post #449259 25th Aug 2015 10:34pm
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Penguin



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I thought most options like winch/winchbumper, sidebars,.. had to be installed by the dealer? 28/02 - Loss of a good friend...

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Post #449275 26th Aug 2015 6:14am
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El Rey



Member Since: 25 Aug 2015
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I'm still waiting to hear back from Land Rover, but someone who went to a dealer today enquired about this and was told that while it is possible that someone (Land Rover UK or Land Rover Australia) is forcing some 'Runout Kits' on dealers, there should be no way for the dealer to then force one of them on you if it wasn't part of your original deal, or is not on a vehicle you're looking at.
Post #449276 26th Aug 2015 6:17am
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Hi El Rey

Thank you for your post.

I am in receipt of your PM and have forwarded your details across to our Global Team who will request that you are contacted by the relevant Customer Relations Department for your vehicle market who will be able to investigate and advise accordingly.

I trust that you will receive contact shortly.

Regards

Ryan
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Sadi



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Could it be that JLR have some excess of "accessories" that they would like to clear ?

When Defender line finally closes down I think they would like to have as little remaining "stock" of various parts, etc. as possible - especially the expensive stuff - bull bars, winches, etc. Question
Post #449493 26th Aug 2015 6:42pm
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El Rey



Member Since: 25 Aug 2015
Location: Gunbarrel Highway
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Ryan@LandRover wrote:
Hi El Rey

Thank you for your post.

I am in receipt of your PM and have forwarded your details across to our Global Team who will request that you are contacted by the relevant Customer Relations Department for your vehicle market who will be able to investigate and advise accordingly.

I trust that you will receive contact shortly.

Regards

Ryan


Much appreciated - thanks
Post #449519 26th Aug 2015 8:10pm
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El Rey



Member Since: 25 Aug 2015
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Sadi wrote:
Could it be that JLR have some excess of "accessories" that they would like to clear ?

When Defender line finally closes down I think they would like to have as little remaining "stock" of various parts, etc. as possible - especially the expensive stuff - bull bars, winches, etc. Question


It could be. If so, they might do better to offer strongly discounted options at the time of the contract signing, rather than trying to force them on customers who have already signed a contract.
Post #449522 26th Aug 2015 8:13pm
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