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| camelman Member Since: 27 Feb 2013 Location: Peak District Posts: 3373  
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Would you not be better sticking a trailer on the back, sounds like a lot of weight on the roof meaning you're going to have to take it easy anyway. Doesn't sound too comfortable for the 2 kids and the dog in the back either!! I'd be tempted to keep the gas bottle outside as well, planing for worst case scenario, wouldn't want to get hit by it.
I did a transafrica in a Camel 110 a few years back and you're definitely aware of all the extra weight on the roof. I had a roof tent, couple of Jerry's (usually empty) and a spare wheel up there but tended to keep it at that.  |
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6th Jul 2015 11:57am |
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| Snowy90 Member Since: 23 Feb 2015 Location: Surrey Posts: 482 
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I haven't got a trailer, no place to store one either but agree would make sense, but its only a 2 day trip.
The gear listed wouldn't go any more than 150kg's but hear what your saying, I notice the difference in handling just having the empty roof rack. And good point about the gas bottle its only a little 5KG one but yes you don't want that flying around in the event of an accident. |
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6th Jul 2015 12:52pm |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17386 
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My view is a little different to some of those above.
If any degree of offroading is involved, a trailer can be more of a problem than a roofrack. There are probably more situations when a trailer will stop you or cause a bigger issues than a rack (which is I image why they didn't take trailers on classic Camel Trophies). I would also tend to put heavy solid things as low as possible, either in or outside the vehicle, and lighter bulkier things on the rack. So sleeping bags etc by preference on the rack, beer in the truck. Spare wheel outside but low (swingaway carrier). I'd be very wary of having a Gas bottle inside even if well-secured in case of leakage. Better outside, and as low if possible. A big advantage of a 110 DC is that you can have things which you don't want to put up on the rack, and yet don't want inside the passenger space, in the back. A 90 with 2 adults, 2 kids, and a dog is going to be a squeeze. If you're basically camping and staying put, could you borrow a trailer? If you're touring round but on firm surfaces (UK type roads) between ovenight stops, a trailer is still good. If you visiting Lake Baikal via the BAM road, crossing the Darien Gap, or going overland to Beijing, I'd be inclined to get a 110 and a roofrack! |
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6th Jul 2015 1:58pm |
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| Venomator Member Since: 25 Aug 2014 Location: Peterborough Posts: 2087
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I too have a 90, no kids, but a wife and dog (in a Lintran cage!) and it would still have been a very tight squeeze going off to Norfolk recently...
But for a chance to bung a load of stuff in a trailer, well worth it... 
I am more than happy to lend you our little one, if you want, we are in and around Peterborough, if that is any use to you? ...  Rog...
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6th Jul 2015 2:11pm |
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| Snowy90 Member Since: 23 Feb 2015 Location: Surrey Posts: 482
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All great advice thanks but its really just a simple weekend camping trip, just wanted bit advice on securing ie tarp and then loads of straps or if people have used the roof bags etc...
not really wanting to go to a 110 yet. Hiring a trailer is a good idea, only off roading will be across the field to the tent then I don't intend driving anywhere just chilling with the kids n missus. My thoughts is laying a tarp across the rack and then wraping it up with straps. and then the bigger items such as tent strapping down individually?? |
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6th Jul 2015 2:14pm |
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| Snowy90 Member Since: 23 Feb 2015 Location: Surrey Posts: 482
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That's really kind venomater thanks for the offer but in Surrey.
We have travelled on weekends away to Somerset and yes its a squeeze but its all part of the fun. Just need to put the camping gear up there, as mentioned it wont even weigh 150kg's so will be fine. |
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6th Jul 2015 2:16pm |
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| Venomator Member Since: 25 Aug 2014 Location: Peterborough Posts: 2087
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You're very welcome Snowy...
Then your proposed method sounds fine with the tarp and strapping... 
Heavier/larger items should be separately tied and lighter items on top of heavier should see you sorted, the expedition rack is well capable and has plenty of tie points! Have a great trip and enjoy the event, happy camping...
Rog...
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6th Jul 2015 2:19pm |
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| Paddie42 Member Since: 24 Apr 2014 Location: Hamphire Posts: 230  
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I've just looked at your gallery pictures. Is that your 90 with the roof rack? I'd be careful loading it up as it appears that it only secures to the gutters at the corners. If you place heavy items up there you need to make sure that the load is evenly distributed.
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6th Jul 2015 2:26pm |
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| Snowy90 Member Since: 23 Feb 2015 Location: Surrey Posts: 482
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That's it yes Paddy
It does look like there is an option to have a third bracket in the middle but it only had the 4 when I bought the car with it. Another set would be sensible. |
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6th Jul 2015 2:29pm |
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| GREENI Member Since: 22 Aug 2010 Location: staffs Posts: 10382
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I've used a Thule bag before, great for lightweight items-doss bags, bedding, clothes etc, though make sure they're are in waterproof duffles..
(I forgot I once owned this 90!!!) Click image to enlarge |
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6th Jul 2015 2:36pm |
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| Snowy90 Member Since: 23 Feb 2015 Location: Surrey Posts: 482
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I did think one of those for lighterweight stuff and then strap some of the bigger items down individually.
Nice 90 and T25 |
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6th Jul 2015 2:38pm |
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| GREENI Member Since: 22 Aug 2010 Location: staffs Posts: 10382
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here it is with my mates Splitties too..
Just try and keep the weight as little as possible up there, basic physics 'n all that! Click image to enlarge |
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6th Jul 2015 2:42pm |
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| Snowy90 Member Since: 23 Feb 2015 Location: Surrey Posts: 482
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Great Photo
And yes common sense I reckon, beer should go down low! I will have a tot up on the weight front as the manual says 75KG including the weight of the rack! for the road and 35KG off road ( not that I am going off road) I reckon my rack already weighs 40KG! |
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6th Jul 2015 2:48pm |
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| BigRuss Member Since: 15 May 2010 Location: Norfolk Posts: 2785 
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Just put the lighter items up top and spread the load evenly.
And buy the beer when you get there Russell
2011MY 110 XS USW Black |
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6th Jul 2015 4:23pm |
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