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| ARC99 Member Since: 19 Feb 2013 Location: North Yorkshire Posts: 1831   
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I saw a similar one about ten years ago at a Caravan Club National Rally. It was being towed by a 110 pick up. Don't make old people mad.
We don't like being old in the first place, so it doesn't take much to  us off.
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29th Jun 2015 7:06pm |
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| shaggydog Member Since: 12 Aug 2012 Location: Kent Posts: 3347 
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You would have thought having gone to the effort of having a 5th wheel they would have gone for a bigger caravan really! Can get twin axle jobbies longer than that! Running Restoration Thread http://www.defender2.net/forum/post323197.html#323197
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29th Jun 2015 7:15pm |
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| Andy80 Member Since: 31 May 2013 Location: Essex Posts: 490  
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Thanks for posting the pictures Mark, I kicked myself for not taking any
Thanks again Andy Working towards Carry on camping! |
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29th Jun 2015 7:48pm |
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| Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018 
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I like that, although I could probably skip the paint job.
Wonder if the truck is an ex racecourse one used for towing the start gates? 
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29th Jun 2015 9:04pm |
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| strang Member Since: 16 May 2012 Location: Happy Valley Posts: 1381 
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This text is from the Series Two club forum, posted by a German member who knows the history of the set-up:
#### the story behind the vehicle: the owner came from the war as a young man, and soon had to take over the family business. They produced plastic windows and other plastic furniture and he and his then girlfriend were keen to travel in the late 40s and early 50s. After having married her he was allowed to take her to foreign lands. They had a Tempo Matador for product delivery in the company and the owners son and his wife were allowed to take it for weekend trips. Soon they had the tent which they used on the loadbed replaced by a fabricated mobilehome "top" wich would be lowered onto the loadbed on fridays and removed on monday mornings. After a while (unclear how many years) they replaced the whole loadbed with the camper part which you can make out as the rearmost part of the fith wheel trailer pictured above. It ended where the bodyline comes down just in front of the door. This piece was fitted instead of the loadbed when the Matador was released from business duties in the late 50s and replaced with a VW T1 (same engine anyway... ) The Matador was then taken further abroad and one particular rainy day in 1961 up in norway, the owner ended up in a ditch on a campground and was towed out by a friendly britishman with a Landrover dormobile. (the owner reported a folding roof on the landrover, so I presume it must have been a dormobile) He then took the decision to get a Landrover himself, and after realising the LWB would be still far too short for his camper top, he found the idea of getting a fifth wheel attachment to the base Landrover and extend the camper part. He used the rear end of the Tempo Matador chassis and fitted a king pin and the front nose of the camper (you can make out the forward end, fitted later) and he fitted the coupling to the Landrovers chassis by himself. Braking was done by an ATE Hydracup brake coupling (*&%^$ dangerous thing) and an additional brake servo fitted to the Landrover. The LWB was bought and delivered through the german dealer in 1962 and he used it until 1992 when he replaced the Series IIA with the present 200TDI 110 pictured above. The 1962 LWB was scrapped a year later as he told me. I bought the papers of all his vehicles in a folder through ebay two years ago and was fascinated by the design and obvious manufacturing talent. And it was a german vehicle, so I used my Landrover contacts and bit of phoning led me to the still living owner who just had suffered a stroke and, having no children, ended up in a clinic and later on in some "elderly people refuge" where I managed to get in touch with him in person. I visited him once and he told me the whole story of this vehicle and how sad he felt loosing his wife in the early 2000 years. He then put the camper aside and left it untouched for 6 or 7 years, but by 2010 he decided to have one last trip up to Norway with this beauty to celebrate the last travel they both did together in 2002 (both of them being in the late 70s by then already!) He ordered new brake parts and some maintenance stuff and setto work when the stroke hit him lying under the towing vehicle. he reported being laid down there for nearly a day, unable to move and thats basically the reason he ended up in the clinic for so long. He sort of recovered but was fixed to a wheelchair, so he decided to sell the camper afterwards. His niece decided to move him to a closer destination and had his home emptied by a company which obviously sold everything looking intersting enough to be put into the bay. Which is the reason why his cars folder ended with me. Interesting people, interesting story, interesting vehicle. He offered me to buy the vehicle, but I refused, as I am not a big camping man (sailor, no time in summer) and it was offered at a rather proud price, which I felt uncomfortabel with and at the same time felt uneasy to haggle. So I put him into contact with a known collector of Landrovers in germany, which happened through a dealer we obvioulsy both know quite well. In the end, the camper eneded up with the collector, the dealer collected and delivered it, and it was in good hands, as we all can see now. #### I am not sure what a Tempo Matador is, but 'Tempo' built versions of the Series One and Two's which were used by the East Germans on the border patrols. Euro-Leafing to infinity and beyond..... |
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30th Jun 2015 11:39am |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17520 
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A fifth wheel conversion on a double cab (110 or 130) would be cool. Anyone know if it's been done?
Edit - yes, Google reveals that they're as common as muck! Google also revealed this however, which is a very cool camper. |
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30th Jun 2015 12:47pm |
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| Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018
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I'd thought your link was going to take me here:
Would love to know if anyone has ever made it. Someone got carried away with the roll cage on this on: Click image to enlarge |
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30th Jun 2015 2:56pm |
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