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grafty99

Member Since: 15 Aug 2012
Location: North Devon
Posts: 4786

Not run in yet at 3500 miles but not any better than the day I picked it up. When driving at 80 ish it drops to 21 mpg easily (old td5 was 25mpg).

What really annoys me is that I could accept poor fuel economy if it had some power (which it doesn't) AND at the same speed with an engine double the capacity and number of cylinders my parents 4.4 TDV8 L322 does easily 33mpg.

I drive pretty economically and can usually get good mpg (37mpg best from my td5) but my new 2.2 doesn't seem to respond to careful driving at all

2002 90 Td5 Station Wagon
1990 Vogue SE
Triumph Tiger Explorer 1200
Td5 90 Thread http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic50767.html
Tdi 110 Thread https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic69562.html
RRC Thread http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic54492.html
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29th Jun 2015 3:08pm

Morepower

Member Since: 08 Jan 2013
Location: Fife, Scotland
Posts: 630

Our 13my 110 on 265 km2's does around 26-30Mpg... It's always been similar, It is slightly better now it's been remapped (circa 400/420miles before the light comes on)... However I also have a set of purely road tyres and that bumps it into the low 30's, well 30/31mpg... TBH though it doesn't go much above 70Mph often as I find it's happiest around 65... HOWEVER IT DOES GET TO 65MPH QUICKLY...

Tim It doesn't matter how bad it is, It can always get worse...

2013 Bowler 110 (Sold)
2016 Bowler 90 Rally Spec (Sold)

29th Jun 2015 3:34pm

MikeJ

Member Since: 04 May 2014
Location: Dorchester, Dorset
Posts: 41

2013 Defender 130 Puma 2.2 HCPU Fuji White

I bought my 2013 110 new and it's averaged 25.1mpg.
(around 10mpg more than the v8 I used to have).

29th Jun 2015 4:34pm

Fabio

Member Since: 05 Aug 2011
Location: Somerset
Posts: 589

2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Santorini Black

I had a couple of td5s and the best i got out of them was 29mpg even on runs of 1800miles.
The one i have now(2.4) did 24 on the same 1800miles.
After a remap it is better 26 or 27.

Fabio

29th Jun 2015 4:38pm

barbel jim

Member Since: 12 Dec 2012
Location: Northants
Posts: 1423

Hi George, Getting roughly 23/24 mpg out of my new 90, less than the TD5 which would return 28ish for the same work. I also don't really rate it

Its dull !! Just ticked over 1500 miles and pulls like a wet lettuce!!! It was been mapped before it arrived,Yes its quieter, more refined and the heater works......permanently......... but it's lacking in the smiles per miles area !!!

29th Jun 2015 5:30pm

rover

Member Since: 26 May 2012
Location: Yorkshire
Posts: 146

Used to get 30 to 34 out of my td5 110, get 26 to 28 out of my 2.2 110. Driven the same and same spec. I think the td5 was the best defender engine, they should have have improved it over the years and given it higher gearing like the disco not replace it with the ford engine and box. But hey oh, there is probably Lots of people out there that think the opposite.

29th Jun 2015 7:20pm

Sphere

Member Since: 26 Apr 2013
Location: Midlands
Posts: 725

2015 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 USW Keswick Green

Mine is the same 23mpg for the 2.2 and 29 for the td5 can't again not run in but can't get my head round it.

29th Jun 2015 7:48pm

grafty99

Member Since: 15 Aug 2012
Location: North Devon
Posts: 4786

It has seriously made me consider keeping it. I love the rest of it, full XS spec with extras etc. I just cant fall in love with the gutless engine and terrible fuel consumption

29th Jun 2015 8:25pm

Supacat

Member Since: 16 Oct 2012
Location: West Yorkshire
Posts: 11018

2013 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS DCPU Keswick Green

If you overlaid the torque curves from the two engines would the gutlessness of the newer engine really be apparent?

29th Jun 2015 8:32pm

grafty99

Member Since: 15 Aug 2012
Location: North Devon
Posts: 4786

probably not, but at least the td5 made a nice noise and was much freer reving 2002 90 Td5 Station Wagon
1990 Vogue SE
Triumph Tiger Explorer 1200
Td5 90 Thread http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic50767.html
Tdi 110 Thread https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic69562.html
RRC Thread http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic54492.html
Instagram http://www.instagram.com/george_grafton

29th Jun 2015 8:47pm

barbel jim

Member Since: 12 Dec 2012
Location: Northants
Posts: 1423

^^^^^ And flaps for proper aircon

29th Jun 2015 8:54pm

grafty99

Member Since: 15 Aug 2012
Location: North Devon
Posts: 4786

I have to say the air con is on the like list for the tdci

29th Jun 2015 9:00pm

RobKeay

Member Since: 19 Jul 2009
Location: Stafford
Posts: 1585

2014 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 USW Corris Grey

I remember my father in law opening the flaps on mine, he got completely covered in dust.

29th Jun 2015 9:09pm

barbel jim

Member Since: 12 Dec 2012
Location: Northants
Posts: 1423

grafty99 wrote:
I have to say the air con is on the like list for the tdci

Not on mine

Black headlining

29th Jun 2015 9:18pm

blackwolf

Member Since: 03 Nov 2009
Location: South West England
Posts: 17450

2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Stornoway Grey

You'd notice the difference if only you could remove the EGR, cat and DPF. It would certainly rev much more freely and the fuel consumption would improve!

30th Jun 2015 7:21am

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