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| grafty99 Member Since: 15 Aug 2012 Location: North Devon Posts: 4786   
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Evening all, I know a lot of people don't see the point in recording mpg. Don't buy a defender if you are interested in mpg. Buy a Prius etc I've heard it all. HOWEVER
I would like to know what mpg people are getting from their 2.2 tdci's? Mine is truly shocking. Driven in exactly the same way and exactly the same speed it averages 10mpg less than my old td5!!! I know a new engine improves with miles but surely it cannot improve by 10mpg? At the moment it is averaging 23.1 mpg on a steady and known run to the midlands from Devon. My old td5 would average 32.9 on the same journey. Can anybody shed any light? Thanks, George 2002 90 Td5 Station Wagon 1990 Vogue SE Triumph Tiger Explorer 1200 Td5 90 Thread http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic50767.html Tdi 110 Thread https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic69562.html RRC Thread http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic54492.html Instagram http://www.instagram.com/george_grafton |
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28th Jun 2015 9:50pm |
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| Pickles Member Since: 26 May 2013 Location: Melbourne Posts: 3785  
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Not good, We always seem to manage between 28 & 30 MPG.
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28th Jun 2015 10:21pm |
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| grafty99 Member Since: 15 Aug 2012 Location: North Devon Posts: 4786
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I would be happy with high 20's. 30mpg is perfectly acceptable, my td5 would do 25mpg at a constant 80 mph, I'd love my puma to be the same! It seems all of the European emission regulations to save the penguins make you use more fuel
 2002 90 Td5 Station Wagon
1990 Vogue SE Triumph Tiger Explorer 1200 Td5 90 Thread http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic50767.html Tdi 110 Thread https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic69562.html RRC Thread http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic54492.html Instagram http://www.instagram.com/george_grafton |
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28th Jun 2015 10:29pm |
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| RobKeay Member Since: 19 Jul 2009 Location: Stafford Posts: 1585 
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You'll be going a lot faster in your 2.2. If you gps your speed the speedo is close in the 2.2. In a td5 its miles out, at 80 I was registering 72.
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28th Jun 2015 10:46pm |
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| grafty99 Member Since: 15 Aug 2012 Location: North Devon Posts: 4786
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Perhaps mine has a problem? I must say it seems slower than other 2.2s I've driven... 2002 90 Td5 Station Wagon
1990 Vogue SE Triumph Tiger Explorer 1200 Td5 90 Thread http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic50767.html Tdi 110 Thread https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic69562.html RRC Thread http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic54492.html Instagram http://www.instagram.com/george_grafton |
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28th Jun 2015 10:47pm |
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| Cafe Latte Member Since: 27 May 2015 Location: Ravenshoe Posts: 10
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My puma is new, less than 1,000km. My first fill was 9.2km/l and the second after half a tank was also the same and that is only 25.88mpg. I dont think that is too bad really as this is combined cycle ie some town and some highway which is exactly what Land Rover says it should be on all the leaflets.I am sure on a Long run at a constant 100kmh it would be better, but even 10kml is only 28.13mpg which is what the Puma is supposed to do at best.
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28th Jun 2015 11:12pm |
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| TheWarden Member Since: 25 Feb 2013 Location: Southampton Posts: 179 
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Since getting my Puma in March 2013 I have recorded all the fuel I have used, and the stats are:
Total cost of fuel: £4537.91 Total number of litres: 3552.26 Miles driven: 18234 Average Price paid: £1.29 per litre Average MPG: 23.151 but then I do have a roof rack and lightbar which will reduce the MPG I get 2013 Aintree Green 110 Station Wagon SX |
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29th Jun 2015 5:21am |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17450 
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My 2.4 has averaged 29mpg over the last 110,000 miles very consistently, and (as the OP knows) that is usually running loaded to around 2.5 tons, with 285 mud tyres and a roofrack.
I would expect a 2.2 to use more fuel due to the DPF regen but 23mpg does seem rather low. How many miles has it done now - is it properly run-in yet? I agree that the emission control equipment does undoubtedly make engines run less well and use more fuel. It is unarguable that removing the EGR and/or cat will improve the fuel economy considerably, and removing the DPF would make even more difference. I think measures like EGRs, cats, and DPFs are unlikely to save the human race from self destruction, so I have to wonder why we bother with them. |
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29th Jun 2015 9:10am |
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| Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018 
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Mines averaging 24.8 mpg but has ranged between 21.1 mpg and 27.7 mpg.
Not as good as some but I'm running a roof rack and MTRs so I think it's just what it does rather than an issue. What sort of speed are you cruising at? It's easily capable of cruising on motorways at 80-85mph which is where I get my lowest figures from. |
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29th Jun 2015 9:39am |
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| scotiach Member Since: 19 Nov 2014 Location: 5603 Posts: 36  
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bang on 10l/100km (ca. 30mpg) from my 2015 2.2 110 over the last 5000km. mix of motorway and city with standard steel wheels and latitudes.
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29th Jun 2015 9:57am |
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| Clemmo Member Since: 03 Aug 2012 Location: Mile Oak Posts: 1219  
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About the same for me..23mpg local
28mpg on a good run. Take it over 70 and it falls off the cliff!!..seems like I can see the gauge going down!! Clemmo Make today a little better than yesterday but not so good as tomorrow.... Defender 90 HT............Pangea Green BMW X3 Msport............Carbon Black Mini Electric................Grey. (wow!) MGB Roadster……..........Vermillion 17k miles Honda Benly CD200....Maroon --------McLouis Fusio........7.4m of fun |
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29th Jun 2015 10:51am |
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| landy andy Member Since: 15 Feb 2009 Location: Ware, Herts Posts: 5729 
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My 2.4 tdci is much worse than my Td5, with all the same kit fitted. Although has got slightly better since decating it.
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29th Jun 2015 10:59am |
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| Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018
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Also will be interesting to see the mileage figures if this week turns out as hot as expected.
Always seem to get better figures when touring in the summer in higher temps, even after discounting the type of driving done. Unscientific answer is that everything heats us and frictional losses are that much less... |
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29th Jun 2015 12:38pm |
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| TJ101 Member Since: 30 May 2007 Location: Taunton Somerset Posts: 3750  
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My last 2.4 (2011) over 21,000 miles did a average of 23.5 (27 on a run, 19-21 towing, running round)
The 2.2 so far over 3000 miles has an average of 22.7, but no long runs as yet, to take that average up,, gut feeling its going to be about the same as all the 2.4 were As already said,, my last 5 puma's have all been worse than previous TD5's People have reported on the "got 500 to a tank" thread,, be nice to see 350 !! without the light on ! California F1, 75th 110 "Kermit", 50th Ann V8, 90 V8 Hybrid, 55 Series 1 Main Brian James Trailer Dealer for South West UK |
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29th Jun 2015 3:02pm |
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