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| Caterham Member Since: 06 Nov 2008 Location: Birmingham Posts: 6312   
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common sense is becoming a black art of years gone by.....
I've no doubt someone will cop it. I doubt there will have been any warning signs in place to suggest a maximum number of persons on the balcony at any one time nor a warning to avoid jumping up / down and to that end the building managers are I suspect in the firing line. a bit like having hot water coming out of the hot tap - best put a warning label on it to warn people that the water might just be hot. reminds me of the warning that came with my bike about the brakes not working which could result in injury or death? worlds gone mad due to the lack of common sense that and 'where there's blame there's a claim' and all that. also reminds me of the saying 'the lights are flashing, the barriers down but there's no train coming' .... maybe the wood was rotten and in a few more years the same thing would have happened with just 4 people on the balcony - don't know, it's just another sad accident unfortunately. |
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18th Jun 2015 10:21am |
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| need4speed Member Since: 23 Nov 2012 Location: Kilmarnock Posts: 746 |
Yes I know what you mean,
I remember years ago at work someone tried to sue the company because they got burned putting they're arm over a boiling kettle.. Unbelievable. Needless to say they were told not to be so bloody silly. Especially as it was him who had just put the kettle on moments before! Need to put a sign on everything for these doughballs. For example: never point loaded gun at oneself... Etc etc |
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18th Jun 2015 10:46am |
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| K9F Member Since: 12 Nov 2009 Location: Bournemouth Posts: 9610  
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I agree as undoubtedly millions of others do as well. With the amount of fatalities and injured personnel and seeing the size of the balcony the exact same thought must have crossed the minds of thousands of sensible and sober people who witnessed the report on tne news. If you go through life with your head in the sand....all people will see is an ar5e!! Treat every day as if it is your last....one day you will be right!! |
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18th Jun 2015 11:09am |
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| Grenadier Member Since: 23 Jul 2014 Location: The foot of Mont Blanc... Posts: 5877  
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A very sad incident, but you are wholly correct. Sadly we live in a litigious, 'where there's blame there's a claim' society. If you climb a tree, fall out and break something, it's your fault, no-one else's. If you climb a ladder and fall off, likewise. If you trip on a pavement, you're the moron for not watching where you're going (or focussing on texting). This in turn leads to a raft of idiotic bans, such as playing conkers at school or changing lightbulbs at work. (We weren't even allowed to do it in the Army, but we were allowed to go to war and be shot at/blown up/both). WTF?
 I am sure we could all offer similar examples.
Nobody takes responsibility for their own actions anymore. Sadly this blame culture means we all get shafted on insurance, teachers are too afraid to take kids on trips and accidents that do merit forensic investigation and litigation such as the recent roller-coaster accident at Alton Towers, get lost in the stupid flurry of claims for all manner of self-induced injury. Monsieur Le Grenadier I've not been everywhere, but it's on my list..... 2011 Puma 110DC - Corris Grey |
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18th Jun 2015 12:29pm |
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| Rickydodah Member Since: 14 Jul 2014 Location: East Sussex Posts: 1091 |
At work I often get involved with negligence issues. The overbearing criteria is the phrase "reasonably foreseeable". Was it reasonably foreseeable that all those people on a small balcony would be cause for concern. For those people involved they're classed as lay people, those who only have a general intelligence of any issues. The architect will have expert intelligence. Was it reasonably foreseeable for the architect to think that this tragic situation would arise, if so then it was his responsiblility to design in sufficient strength to avoid a collapse. In the UK any negligence, and this would likely fall under criminal negligence would invariably be decided by the Coroner's court verdict on the cause of death. If the verdict was accidental death then basically anything that happened was not reasonably foreseeable and no blame is attributed. I've never dealt with the U.S. But I'd imagine their system is compatible to ours.
 I started with nothing and still have most of it left! |
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18th Jun 2015 12:45pm |
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