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landroverdiver



Member Since: 13 Jun 2009
Location: Renfrewshire
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Scotland 
Mudstuff Defender Vent
Hi

I have a 2004 TD5 110 SW and as I am planning to overhaul the wiper mechanism I am thinking about doing something to improve the side window demisting at the same time.

I have searched the forum and found threads about installation of military demisting systems and very clever and value for money self installs using flexible conduit etc. Also recomendations (or not as the case may be), for the dash top defender vent, which incidentally I have already fitted.

I fitted the Defender Vents at Xmas, then came straight back to Australia, so dont really have an opinion as to their performance, but I would prefer something hidden in the dash, and if its coming out anyway!

My question is, has anyone on here installed the Mudstuff Defender Vent, and if so, what are their thoughts on its performance?

Its obviously quite a lot of money for what it is, and I understand its a bit fiddly to fit, but has anyone fitted one, and if so, would you recommend it?

thanks

Mike
Post #419902 29th Apr 2015 2:17am
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nosnibod



Member Since: 15 Aug 2007
Location: West Midlands
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United Kingdom 1998 Defender 110 300 Tdi SW Bronze Green
I fitted a set to my Td5. Absolutely not worth it, sorry to say. I think the main problem is the standard Td5 setup doesn't move enough air...

It did - eventually - clear a very small area on the side windows - the passenger side being better than the drivers, but not enough to see the wing mirrors.

One trick I did find more effective - if you have the Td5 aircon fitted - was to aim the aircon vents at the side windows and on maximum 'blast' setting. If you set it to chill the air as well it worked better because it dries the air as well. Dave
Green Goddess - 1998 Defender 110 300tdi
Post #419905 29th Apr 2015 5:10am
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taffrican



Member Since: 14 Jan 2011
Location: Living room
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Wales 2002 Defender 90 Td5 HT Java Black
I'm another one that wishes I'd hadn't bothered, a lot of money and a lot of work for very little return, I wish I'd gone for a DIY option as I think I could have done better, but you live and learn Crying or Very sad Optimists say the glass is half full..
Pessimists say the glass is half empty..
Engineers say the glass is twice the size it needs to be!
Post #419915 29th Apr 2015 6:43am
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Anderzander



Member Since: 08 Feb 2011
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I fitted them and thought they were ok - not great, but ok. I do though have a fully variable fan speed, so I'm not stuck with just the standard two fan speeds and I'm not sure how much that plays into it.
Post #419918 29th Apr 2015 6:49am
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nosnibod



Member Since: 15 Aug 2007
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United Kingdom 1998 Defender 110 300 Tdi SW Bronze Green
Even set on maximum and fully onto the screen vents it was quite a poor airflow. I even tried that anti-fog stuff motorcyclists use on visors and it didn't help much, if at all.

Best of all was wiping the windows and then opening the front vents. Bit chilly though! Dave
Green Goddess - 1998 Defender 110 300tdi
Post #419919 29th Apr 2015 6:59am
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landroverdiver



Member Since: 13 Jun 2009
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Thanks guys, I think I will save myself 130 quid and live with what I have
Post #419928 29th Apr 2015 8:39am
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epictrail



Member Since: 20 Sep 2013
Location: High Wycombe
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United Kingdom 2004 Defender 110 Td5 HT Chawton White
I fitted the Defender Vent kit which is now sold by Britpart so cheaper DA1205-BP than Mudstuff. You really need to use it in combination with a heated windscreen and heated mirrors. Also if your fan is old or not genuine Landcover then you might not get enough air flow. I had just fitted a new fan genuine Airbox complete (ex MOD) spares and the air flow is now strong on full fan. The vent kits now include some foam to close of part of the windscreen vent and encourage more air to side vents. Also the Engine needs to be warmed up so producing heat from the heater.

Not perfect but worth fitting for me.
Post #419953 29th Apr 2015 11:52am
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Hufflepuff



Member Since: 25 Oct 2014
Location: Hampshire
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England 2005 Defender 90 Td5 XS CSW Tonga Green
I fitted the Mudstuff kit last year. Its "ok", not mind blowing as others have said the td5 blower just doesn't seem to have enough oomph. However, on a long run it provides just enough air flow to keep the passenger side window clear to see the wing mirrors, which is primarily what I needed.

The drivers side being further from the blower gets even less - but at least you clear this with a cloth yourself.
Post #419960 29th Apr 2015 12:41pm
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Anderzander



Member Since: 08 Feb 2011
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Epic trail - could you give me more info on the foam ?

Is it put into the vent above the side outlet to offer enough resistance to the flow so that more is encouraged down the sides ?

Sounds a decent idea - just needs to be an open enough foam I expect.

One thing I can do on mine is shorten the side pipes a little - I made them over long so I wouldn't have any trouble connecting them to the outlet vents, but I think they could be shorter and still do-able.
Post #419965 29th Apr 2015 1:06pm
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epictrail



Member Since: 20 Sep 2013
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United Kingdom 2004 Defender 110 Td5 HT Chawton White
Pipes are best as short as possible otherwise they restrict airflow for sure.

The Foam goes in the main vent opening and is about 4cm long. One at each end of the vent.
Post #419999 29th Apr 2015 5:20pm
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Anderzander



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So it just leaves a gap in the middle then ? Not at all how I imagined it !
Post #420022 29th Apr 2015 7:03pm
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Lancerdoc999



Member Since: 10 Apr 2016
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BUMP

anyone fitted the new 2.0 defender vent? Any improvement on the previous incarnation. Need to do something to improve side vents (don't have any at the moment) £133 for a load of plastic seems ridiculous.
Post #537588 4th Jun 2016 10:42pm
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bluebottle



Member Since: 08 May 2015
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Personally I just coat my window glass inside with anti-fog stuff from Halfrauds. Seems to do the job and only needs topping up every now and then.
Post #537631 5th Jun 2016 8:04am
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Wheel



Member Since: 28 May 2014
Location: Essex
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Just reading this with interest as i'd thought about the misting on my old Defenders and saw Blue bottles post re; anti fogging stuff and although i've never tried it, and had actually forgotten all about ituntil now I remember ny Nan telling me once about rubbing a little neat washing up liquid on her kitchen window to stop them misting up.
As far as I know it worked ok.
Might be worth a no cost try ???
Post #537645 5th Jun 2016 9:02am
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nickburt



Member Since: 26 Apr 2018
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So, has anyone fitted the Mud Defendervent 2.0? Is it any better, do the roller top vent make much difference.

Is it worth £150 ?? 1986, 127, ex Fire Tender and Ambulance
Post #714122 23rd Jun 2018 10:38pm
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