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22900013A



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Paying off finance early
I have the opportunity to pay off the finance for my 110 early but I am totally stumped by the response from Land Rover finance.

I have asked for a settlement figure which they have provided, however this figure is exactly the same amount as the outstanding balance. I have 13 months left to pay if I do nothing. The issue I have is how can the two figures be the same? How can I still be charged 13 months interest when there would be no outstanding balance?

I have never been impressed with LR Finance as we seem to have had nothing but problems with them (eg took them SIX MONTHS to change a payment date for me) but this takes the cake!

There must be others on here who have paid early, what was your experience? Under the circumstances I am inclined to just let them wait for their money. My financial advisor said they should reimburse the outstanding interest but when he spoke to them they denied this.

Any advice/suggestions very welcome. Their paperwork certainly makes mention of refund/reimbursement of charges if paid off early. 2011 110 USW
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1972 Series III 1-Ton Cherrypicker
1969 IIA 1-Ton
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Post #413005 1st Apr 2015 5:32pm
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ken



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Two you they are the same but to LR they are not unless they wrote the RV value to zero Question

Full term they get full rentals plus disposal proceeds ET they don't they just get funds from you

Your ET is contractually calculable so ask for the calc Thumbs Up
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22900013A



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Forgive my ignorance but I am not sure what RV and ET are? 2011 110 USW
1973 Series III 1-Ton
1972 Series III 1-Ton Cherrypicker
1969 IIA 1-Ton
1966 IIA 88"
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I had the same problem a couple of years ago and if I can recall rightly this is what I was told.

If it was a fixed rate loan the finance company would have added the interest over the period of the loan, so the outstanding balance would be the same for early settlement. Some loans add the interest at the end of period so the later payments pay off the interest so again no reduction in paying off early. The only loan where you would get a reduced settlement fee would be the type of loan where interest is flexible over the period. For those who like Welsh Mountains and narrow boats have a look at my videos and photos at..

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Does LR finance calculate the interest figure each on the remaining balance after you pay your monthly payment?
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22900013A



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Our understanding (going by what the finance guy at the bank read off the paperwork) is that the interest is calculated daily, which is also what LRF told me on the phone when I spoke to them. Our understanding is therefore that should I pay early, I would pay less interest as obviously the full figure is paid off over a shorter period. Obviously had I set up the payments for four years rather than five I would not pay the same interest figure would I?

The paperwork definitely mentions rebate/refund in the case of early settlement. 2011 110 USW
1973 Series III 1-Ton
1972 Series III 1-Ton Cherrypicker
1969 IIA 1-Ton
1966 IIA 88"
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Just read the original post. I phoned LR finance today to get a settlement figure and my man maths tells me it is equal to the GMFV LR quoted for 3 years plus the number of months x monthly amount but with some subtracted since I will not be paying interest at 5.9% for the remaining months. HTH 1970 Series 2A 88"
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22900013A



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I understand the actual company LR use has changed, so perhaps yours is the newer, better one? What you have been told is what I expected to be told! But they are adamant I owe the full amount, which means there is absolutely zero incentive to pay it off early, as I wouldn't save a penny. 2011 110 USW
1973 Series III 1-Ton
1972 Series III 1-Ton Cherrypicker
1969 IIA 1-Ton
1966 IIA 88"
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JJ



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22900013A wrote:
Forgive my ignorance but I am not sure what RV and ET are?


RV is residual value and et is early termination

What type of finance do you have ? i.e.. HP , Finance lease etc.
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Hire purchase. 2011 110 USW
1973 Series III 1-Ton
1972 Series III 1-Ton Cherrypicker
1969 IIA 1-Ton
1966 IIA 88"
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Is the finance in your name as a consumer ( regulated ) or in a company ( unregulated ) .

As a consumer you have certain rights that can't be waived by you or the finance provider but as a company you don't have the same rights and it is then down to the wording in the contract.
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It is all in my name as an individual. 2011 110 USW
1973 Series III 1-Ton
1972 Series III 1-Ton Cherrypicker
1969 IIA 1-Ton
1966 IIA 88"
Post #413322 2nd Apr 2015 8:26pm
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Hi all

Due to the nature of this enquiry, I would unfortunately not be able to provide any assistance relating to finance agreements or concerns.

All matters relating to finance would need to be directed to the applicable finance company as per the finance agreement. It is a requirement due to FSA regulations that this is only discussed between the policy holder and the finance provider.

Regards

Ryan
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22900013A



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Thanks for your input Ryan, I actually put my thread in this section as I couldn't find another one more suitable, I was already aware that Land Rover themselves are not involved in this issue, I was just hoping to hear other peoples experiences of paying off their finance ahead of schedule.

Thanks again,
Dan 2011 110 USW
1973 Series III 1-Ton
1972 Series III 1-Ton Cherrypicker
1969 IIA 1-Ton
1966 IIA 88"
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I had a letter from land rover finance for a settlement figure and it clearly stated the amount of interest to be taken off if I paid it early.
They are not allowed to top load interest anymore and must take the interest off for the early repayment.

If you ask for a settlement figure they also have to send a written copy out to you by post.

hope this helps

Steve
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