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Anderzander Member Since: 08 Feb 2011 Location: Lancashire Posts: 1000 |
Enjoy it !
You don't need the hoses and intercooler on that set up. |
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26th Feb 2015 6:02pm |
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bob neville Member Since: 30 Apr 2009 Location: Marbella Posts: 3248 |
For peace of mind I would take the exhaust manifold off, get it skimmed flat and replace with decent studs.
Doing that will hopefully stop the dreaded manifold warp Bob 2015 Jaguar XE240 R Sport - goes like ....... !! 2013 Defender 90 CSW - sold 2009 Defender 110 Double Cab - sold 2001 TD5 90 CSW - offroad project - sold to a forum member 2011 Porsche Boxster - for the sunny days ! |
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26th Feb 2015 6:10pm |
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Derrickthedefender Member Since: 28 Jan 2014 Location: South Posts: 294 |
Sorry Bob, what do you mean by that? A Defender... Mans best friend, never judges, trustworthy (most of the time), go anywhere, do anything, looks the business, and mans biggest money pit!!!
Yes the name for my 90 is Derrick! |
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26th Feb 2015 6:17pm |
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ibexman Member Since: 13 Dec 2008 Location: Essex Posts: 2945 |
Fit a provent 200
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26th Feb 2015 6:23pm |
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Laurie Member Since: 22 Feb 2008 Location: Sussex, England Posts: 2897 |
Trade it in for a sportscar. ....
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26th Feb 2015 6:25pm |
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bob neville Member Since: 30 Apr 2009 Location: Marbella Posts: 3248 |
TD5 exhaust manifolds are not heat stressed from new and have a tendency to warp. This is made worse after a remap as the exhaust gas temp tends to be higher. When it warps you get a screeching sound and the movement can snap the studs in the block. Pots 1 and 5 are the areas to watch, easily spotted by the black staining that appears on the block.
The manifold tends to only warp once so a lot of people wait until it happens but you can be unlucky and get the snapped studs before you can get it sorted out. If you get it skimmed now it may have done all the warping it is going to do and fitting upgraded studs from JE or Wurth will hopefully stop them snapping if it does move again. Bob 2015 Jaguar XE240 R Sport - goes like ....... !! 2013 Defender 90 CSW - sold 2009 Defender 110 Double Cab - sold 2001 TD5 90 CSW - offroad project - sold to a forum member 2011 Porsche Boxster - for the sunny days ! |
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26th Feb 2015 6:38pm |
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Derrickthedefender Member Since: 28 Jan 2014 Location: South Posts: 294 |
Nice one thanks bob, I'll look it that... A Defender... Mans best friend, never judges, trustworthy (most of the time), go anywhere, do anything, looks the business, and mans biggest money pit!!!
Yes the name for my 90 is Derrick! |
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26th Feb 2015 6:40pm |
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DSC-off Member Since: 16 Oct 2014 Location: North East Posts: 1401 |
Bob,
Why would you skim a manifold that hasn't warped yet? If it warps after you've skimmed it you'll only have to do it again. I would agree with upgrading the bolts, and skim the manifold if it isn't flat. I've seen a few this has happened to, but luckily not mine. That's probably jinxed it! J. |
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26th Feb 2015 7:21pm |
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Lambley Member Since: 20 Apr 2013 Location: Mid Devon Posts: 1435 |
I've done all you first mentioned plus fitted a larger intercooler and better hoses, it's not something that's a necessity but it definitely helps the engine breathe easier, I did it because I was doing everything else at the time, plus a mate offered to buy my old intercooler and hoses for £75.
I think it helps with the longevity of the engine more than anything, and mines a very low mileage vehicle so I thought I'd like to keep it in good condition. |
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26th Feb 2015 7:38pm |
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bob neville Member Since: 30 Apr 2009 Location: Marbella Posts: 3248 |
DSC
I do agree, why fix something that ain't broke. If I was going to the effort of changing the studs I would get the manifold skimmed. It may have warped to some extent already and the skimming will help. Having now seen a couple that have broken the studs in the block and the grief the owners went through to sort them out I think I would go with the proactive option. Hopefully, if it does warp further, the studs will still be in one piece. Bob 2015 Jaguar XE240 R Sport - goes like ....... !! 2013 Defender 90 CSW - sold 2009 Defender 110 Double Cab - sold 2001 TD5 90 CSW - offroad project - sold to a forum member 2011 Porsche Boxster - for the sunny days ! |
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26th Feb 2015 8:05pm |
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jimbob7 Member Since: 06 Jul 2013 Location: uk Posts: 2055 |
R.e warped manifold,I think the mod done BEFORE it warps is to "de-web" the manifold,or cut the bits out between the manifold pipes,I assume to help heat dissipation.Either way,I think the manifold has to come off,unless you have access to the outer ones. Pov.spec,ftw. 2006, 110,TD5.
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26th Feb 2015 8:06pm |
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bob neville Member Since: 30 Apr 2009 Location: Marbella Posts: 3248 |
Personally, when I get my TD5 mapped I think I will go for this and save the agro
http://www.allisport.com/product/td5-exhau...t-package/ Interesting comment at the end about removing the webs ??? Bob 2015 Jaguar XE240 R Sport - goes like ....... !! 2013 Defender 90 CSW - sold 2009 Defender 110 Double Cab - sold 2001 TD5 90 CSW - offroad project - sold to a forum member 2011 Porsche Boxster - for the sunny days ! |
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26th Feb 2015 8:47pm |
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Lambley Member Since: 20 Apr 2013 Location: Mid Devon Posts: 1435 |
Ref warped manifold, I've been looking into this and it sounds like a good idea to sort it before it happens, I've found a bloke on eBay that offers a 'performance' manifold that's been skimmed and had the webbing removed for £175, sounds a bit pricey but if the one he's skimmed had warped and then been skimmed it's unlikely to happen again, could be more than worth the money? Has anyone used this or know of a good place to get this done?
It also sounds like people swap the soft L/R studs for Wurth Mercedes studs and copper nuts, anyone? |
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26th Feb 2015 11:18pm |
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