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Marius



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South Africa 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SW Keswick Green
tire wear
Does the tires on a puma wear evenly since its all wheel drive? Considering mostly no loads on tar driving?
Post #239950 31st May 2013 12:44pm
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K9F



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United Kingdom 2008 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Stornoway Grey
Mine seem to. Although with the weight of the engine and vehicle bearing down on the front whilst breaking they may perhaps wear marginally quicker perhaps? Thumbs Up If you go through life with your head in the sand....all people will see is an ar5e!!

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Post #239973 31st May 2013 1:48pm
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rossy



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Ireland 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 CSW Stornoway Grey
they ought to. My BFGs still have those bobbly bits on the treads that new tyres have for a bit until they wear - and thats after nearly 2 years and 28k km Very Happy
Post #240009 31st May 2013 5:28pm
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HardCharger



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Philippines 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SW Stornoway Grey
Unfortunately, mine did not wear evenly, the fronts exhibited more wear than the rears. I was planning to do a 5 tire rotation but the unexpected excessive wear of the fronts killed that idea. Thing is, I've only run 10,000 KMs before scheduling the re-balance and rotation which is pretty standard. Does this mean I'll have to do rotations every 5,000 KMs if I want to do 5 tire rotations?

If it helps, the truck is running boost alloys with 235/85/R16 Federal Couragias which came with the truck when I bought it off the previous owner.

Speaking of 5 tire rotations, is there a special pattern I have to follow for Defenders or do I just follow standard 5 tire rotations for 4x4s? For the meantime, what I did was cross the fronts and advanced the rears.

As always, your input is greatly appreciated.
Post #392641 26th Jan 2015 8:40am
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blackwolf



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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Stornoway Grey
Generally I find mine tend to wear fairly evenly all round, front slightly faster than the rear. Since I always run MTs of some kind, the tyres themselves tend (as do all MTs) to wear directionally and to suffer from crenellation (uneven wear of adjacent tread blocks - one high, one low, one high etc) especially if driven fast on tarmac. Because of this I rotate them FOS to RNS and FNS to ROS every 10k miles or so, which for me is two or three time a year. Swapping them like this results in a front/rear swap, and a rotation reversal.

The result is that tyre wear is very even, rotation effects are managed, crenellation tends to be reduced, and typically I will get 90k to 100k miles from a set of BFG M/Ts. After this they'll be down to about 6mm of tread, at which point I replace them and generally can sell the old set since they still have many legal miles left in them.
Post #392661 26th Jan 2015 10:56am
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HardCharger



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Philippines 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SW Stornoway Grey
Thanks for the tip, blackwolf. I noticed the uneven wear on the mud tires as well.

In any case, what you suggest is still a 4 tire rotation, so I'm guessing no real way to include the spare into the rotation party?
Post #393199 28th Jan 2015 4:41am
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blackwolf



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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Stornoway Grey
Not easily, but my spare sits on the carrier unused so doesn't wear. If worried about age, when you get a new set put one of the new ones on the carrier and run the former spare on the road.
Post #393215 28th Jan 2015 9:25am
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HardCharger



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Philippines 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SW Stornoway Grey
That would be good if you are sticking to the same kind of tire, but then age is still a factor with the newly placed in spare. Another issue would be if you wanted to change tire types.
Post #397216 9th Feb 2015 11:34am
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Supacat



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United Kingdom 2013 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS DCPU Keswick Green
HardCharger wrote:
Thanks for the tip, blackwolf. I noticed the uneven wear on the mud tires as well.

In any case, what you suggest is still a 4 tire rotation, so I'm guessing no real way to include the spare into the rotation party?


Post #397234 9th Feb 2015 12:39pm
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x-isle



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Wales 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Santorini Black
Front's should wear quicker than the rears.

They have to deal with the steering (although the rears are effectively dragged around corners too), but more importantly, they deal with more of the breaking forces.

Any car, RWD, FWD or AWD should still wear them out quicker. However, saying that, my Jag XK used to wear out the rears quicker than the fronts due to the DSC on the rear wheels working quite a lot. Whistle Craig Rogers

2007 Puma 110 XS
2011 Evoque Coupe Dynamic Lux
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Post #397245 9th Feb 2015 12:55pm
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HardCharger



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Philippines 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SW Stornoway Grey
Supacat wrote:
HardCharger wrote:
Thanks for the tip, blackwolf. I noticed the uneven wear on the mud tires as well.

In any case, what you suggest is still a 4 tire rotation, so I'm guessing no real way to include the spare into the rotation party?




Thanks for the illustrations Supacat!

As with x-isle's experience, does this mean we do tire rotations now at 5,000 KMs rather than 10,000 KMs or are my current tires just really not up to it?
Post #397327 9th Feb 2015 4:09pm
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blackwolf



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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Stornoway Grey
If I was rotating 5 I would do so at shorter intervals than if I was rotating 4.
Post #397354 9th Feb 2015 5:21pm
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x-isle



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Wales 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Santorini Black
I tend to just do a front to back switch without crossing over and I don't touch the spare.

Appreciate the issue that if you change tyres when all 4 are worn, you have a non-matching spare. Craig Rogers

2007 Puma 110 XS
2011 Evoque Coupe Dynamic Lux
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Post #397355 9th Feb 2015 5:29pm
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HardCharger



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Philippines 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SW Stornoway Grey
Thanks guys!

Will just run and rotate the current set and then when I get a new set, will try doing 5,000 KMs rotations to see if that will be better.
Post #397686 10th Feb 2015 7:24pm
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