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a13x



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Twin battery with winch
Going to order the twin battery setup from mobile centre but have a few questions.

Firstly, I want to install the fuse box under the drivers seat rather than passenger side. What size cable should I order?
Secondly, I have a winch (LR dealer accessory) do I need anything further and is the cable size supplied with the kit suitable?
Lastly, any other advice or tips?

Thanks
Post #388495 14th Jan 2015 7:23pm
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Location: Suffolk
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United Kingdom 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 HT Corris Grey
How are you planning on wiring up the second battery and what is it to do?
Is the second one to run stuff with the engine off or just to give a boost whilst winching?
Either way, I'd be leaving the winch connected to the main starter battery.
Post #388606 14th Jan 2015 10:49pm
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BigRuss



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I used 16mm2 cable to power my fuse box.

People normally use either 35mm2 or 40mm2 cable for winches, when I pre wired mine I changed all the cables to 50mm2 (that was a personal choice, I think someonenon here has used 95mm2)

It is advisable to have a switch in the system somewhere so you are not constantly sending power to front bumper (water and electrics not mixing to well and all that good stuff).

I too opted to put the fuse box in the drivers seat box, I ran 50mm2 +be cable to a bus bar under the drivers seat via an isolator switch, I then took the feed off the isolator switch to the fuse box using 16mm2 cable (I took it from the live side of the switch so I have a constantly powered fuse box). I then ran the -ve from the fuse box to a bus bar and back the the batteries.

From the bus bars u have run 50mm2 cable to an Anderson connector on the front bumper and will run one to the rear when I get round to it....

Now I asume that it won't be long before someone comes alone and bitches about this setup but it's how I've done it and it works. Russell
2011MY 110 XS USW Black
Post #388608 14th Jan 2015 10:53pm
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That sounds pretty good to me.
Mine came with the winch so the wiring isn't mine but there's a solenoid under the seat box with a switch on the dash to turn the winch off when I'm not using it. It really is a good idea to be able to turn the winch off somewhere, either with an isolator or a solenoid, so if something goes wrong you can stop it and you're not sending power to it all the time.

BigRuss: the only quibble I could possibly think to have about your setup if I was trying hard is the 16mm^2 cable from the battery to the fuse box. There's rarely a nice way to do it but if you do get a fault on that cable it's going to melt/catch fire because it's not protected. That said, if there's a fault with the battery you'll have the same issue, it's pretty difficult to fuse something right on the battery and you've used a pretty fat cable Thumbs Up
I do like the sound of your setup Cool

I've seen far, far worse and indeed the PO has done far worse on mine and that hasn't caught fire yet!
Post #388657 15th Jan 2015 8:54am
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BigRuss



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Your right Cupboard, the worst that can happen is the cable melt and catch fire, to mitigate this I've looked at the continuous loads likely to be pulled and making sure the cables won't melt!

The cables from the battery box to drivers seat box are 50mm2 and the 16mm2 to and from the fuse box are taken from them. Russell
2011MY 110 XS USW Black
Post #388659 15th Jan 2015 9:24am
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The amount of times I've seen farm machinery where there's a cable to supply, say, a radio in the cab that's taken from the battery through a really convoluted route straight from the battery and only fused right by the radio is silly. If there's a fault anywhere along the cable run and the cable shorts to the chassis (entirely possible, especially on something that bounces around a lot) there's no protection whatsoever and that cable is the thing that's going to melt.

As soon as you think about what the fuse does and what the risks are it becomes obvious, but if you're going to put a fuse in it's very tempting to put it in the dry cab where you can change it easily.
Post #388712 15th Jan 2015 1:02pm
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