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| rick Member Since: 07 Mar 2008 Location: Perth Posts: 133   
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Hi,
I'm heading up to Broome shortly and I need a second spare tyre, which will go on the roof (god help me if I need to take it off). In addition to the tyre I intend to put a cargo box (recovery gear), 20L plastic jerry can (water) and some light bags (clothes) on roof as well. Taking into account that I already have a 2mtr long alloy luggage tray, I'm wondering whether this will be too much for the roof? I know the centre of gravity changes significantly, but I just don't want to break something due to weight - my instinct is that I should be fine with weight to spare, but some advice would be appreciated. Also, how the hell does anyone ever get a spare tyre on/off the roof of a Defender without totally shattering their back? I don't want to look like 'Mr Bean Goes Outback'! Is there a special technique that I'm not aware of? Cheers, Rick. 1998 RR HSE 2007 RRS TDV6 2008 Defender 110 2015 Discovery Sport |
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19th Aug 2010 4:35am |
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| double cab happy Member Since: 01 Jun 2009 Location: merseyside Posts: 573  
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the roof will take the weught as you see people with a 50kg roof tent then add two adults at 100+ kg each, i would say don't do it for on the move though just back from a trip with a group of people one guy in a disco 1 or 2 (slightly lower than a defender) had a not very over lowded roof rack on and made some side slopes look very risky when we just walk'd it with no problems, but thats just me.
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19th Aug 2010 7:58am |
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| wyvern Member Since: 13 Dec 2009 Location: Cornwall Posts: 2105  
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Hi Rick,
Regarding getting wheels off the roofrack... Recently I had to carry 6 wheels home up on the roof rack and found the best way was to stand on the rack, pass a long strap though the wheel and lower it down under control over the back. I loaded them the same way which saved a lot of gruning 
worked for me ! Poppy - TDCI (Puma) 110XS 2.2 - Camper conversion - see the build here - https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic56530.html Elgar -TDCI(Puma) 110XS Dormobile - now sold Devon & Cornwall 4x4 Response - DC126  |
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19th Aug 2010 11:15am |
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| eutek Member Since: 03 Mar 2009 Location: High Wycombe Posts: 586 
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I just got back from a trip from Romania, where I had to carry three large, heavy suitcases, boxes and 4 wheels w/ snow tyres (16'' wheels) for my wife's car.
I'm sure I was over the advised limit, and I could feel that it slightly affected the handling of the truck. I just took corners slowly and everything was OK. It wasn't grossly overloaded... When it came to take the wheels off - I just went on top, undid the ratchet strap and threw them on the grass.  I didn't know that wheels/tyres would bounce like they did! One took off down the street, had to run after it.
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19th Aug 2010 11:32am |
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| Martin Site Admin Member Since: 02 Apr 2007 Location: Hook Norton Posts: 6605 
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OT, but very smart 110
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19th Aug 2010 3:22pm |
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| AndrewS Member Since: 10 Apr 2007 Location: Hereford Posts: 3707 
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Just got back from Morocco
 did I mention that before
Anyway on the Hannibal rack I had a Howling Moon roof tent, 4 waffle boards, Spare wheel, 2 Jerry cans, Awning and an AluBox full of er er crap. Got to some extreme angles in the dunes and all was fine. On the way home I removed everything that was not bolted to the rack (spare, waffles and jerry cans) and placed them inside the vehicle. The reason for this was the hotels on the way back had no secure parking. Removing these item made no noticeable difference to the vehicle performance or handling. Click image to enlarge 130's have feeling's as well you know  |
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19th Aug 2010 3:46pm |
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| Alex e Member Since: 23 Apr 2007 Location: Home isn't it Posts: 204 
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you mean you could still only do 45mph up hill?  |
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19th Aug 2010 3:51pm |
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| AndrewS Member Since: 10 Apr 2007 Location: Hereford Posts: 3707
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46 actually 130's have feeling's as well you know
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19th Aug 2010 4:01pm |
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| mse Member Since: 06 Apr 2008 Location: UK Posts: 5035 
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Just a note that isnt correct UK/Europe spec is The maximum roof load is 150 kg (330 lb). When calculating the roof load, the weight of the roof rack and any load carrier must be included. As for total weight - well do know someone who got the sides to collapse with the roof load! Mike |
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19th Aug 2010 4:51pm |
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| rick Member Since: 07 Mar 2008 Location: Perth Posts: 133
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Thanks for the quick response guys.
Wyvern - thanks for the tip, that makes sense (I'm relieved), will make sure I have a long enough strap. Eutek - thanks for the pics, clearly I have no weight issues with my proposed cargo. Will post photos when I get back. Cheers, Rick. 1998 RR HSE 2007 RRS TDV6 2008 Defender 110 2015 Discovery Sport |
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20th Aug 2010 4:47am |
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| leeds Member Since: 28 Dec 2009 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 8581
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A tyre weighs a lt less then a tyre/rim or wheel. So just take a spare tyre carcass or two? OK you will need tyre levers etc but a lot less weigh. OK a bit more work Also a suitable size inner tube or wo. Yes inside of a tubeless tyre is rougher then a tubed tyre. Main problem comes if you seriously buckle two rims! Main problem I had with punctures in Oz was roofing screws in towns! Water bladders are a better solution then jerry cans. Take up far less space when empty Make sure you have a decent compressor onboard HTH Brendan |
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20th Aug 2010 8:09am |
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| ralton Member Since: 04 Feb 2010 Location: Durban Posts: 153  
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I think you might be quite surprised how much 150kg is. Also, i would think the 150kg limit is for "continuous" weight.
I recently did a trip though Lesotho with big tent, aluminium trunk full of heavy stuff, plastic trunk full of wood, 2 jerry cans (20lt water and 20lt diesel) as well as the weight of the roof rack (probably 25kg), and that's about a total of 130/140kg i reckon... And then me (umm, a bit more than 100kg) often climbing up and getting stuff... How the hell do you guys insert images?? here's 2 links: http://www.ralton.co.za/images/lesotho/IMG_0268med.JPG http://www.ralton.co.za/images/lesotho/IMG_0314med.JPG www.ralton.co.za |
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20th Aug 2010 10:00am |
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| Mad Cow Member Since: 27 Oct 2009 Location: Hertfordshire Posts: 292 
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Apologies in advance for a quick thread hijack
Use a hosting site, I use Photobucket http://photobucket.com/ Upload your pictures, then cut and paste the pictures IMG Code (pops up when you place the cursor over the thumbnail) into your post here. For instance the code [***]https://s3-eu-west-2.amazonaws.com/i.hubnuts.uk/xpb/c6/c6b7d72ed59cc85e6bcd410489cd536a0a339df0cba2a920c063cfaff4c25d43.jpg[/IMG] I've replaced the letters IMG with *** at the front so you can see the code not the picture; when complete looks like this: Click image to enlarge Admin note: this post has had its images recovered from a money grabbing photo hosting site and reinstated MAD COW
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20th Aug 2010 10:05pm |
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| mse Member Since: 06 Apr 2008 Location: UK Posts: 5035
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host them in the gallery of this site Mike |
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20th Aug 2010 11:37pm |
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